The UMNo division chairman involved in the racial slur refused to apologies, saying that he did nothing wrong.This is really expected because the subservience of the component parties the past few decades have make politicians in UMNO very arrogant. Nothing can be wrong. Remember the “Zakaria palace” ?That is not wrong. Remember the ” close one eye” , that is also not wrong.
Why? Because all this while , nothing is being done in spite of the hue and cry each time. They are emblodened by all these and who can blame them for their arrogance?
On the other hand, remember namewee? The university student that produce a video and caused a big uproar? Even apologies were not accepted. ANd he is just a student. (please read my posts on namewee: real gold is not afraid of fire, and namewee apologies ,burying the hatchet etc)
Why the double standard? Are there 2 sets of laws and rules in the country? You can be forgiven to think that there are really 2 sets of rules here.
What about the concept of everyone being equal under the law?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 12:40:52
Nope Doc…
If BN is here to stay, not everybody is equal to the Law. Dont even dream about it…
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 13:16:52
Not everyone is equal under the law in Malaysia, it is common knowledge among Malaysians, don’t you know that?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 13:53:59
just kick them out as soon as possible.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 14:07:19
To save us all including the Malays, we have to vote Bn -umno-MC- MIC gerakan out.
They are dead rotten wood and rubbish.
When we have garbage ruling the country we have plenty of garbage around.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 14:15:02
Glad youngsters can now read and know the truth of it all.
Yes…there always have been double standards and so call guided democracy …to get all against UMNO to jail…no trial.
Those UMNO leaders behave so mild.. meek..and gentle…such great gentlemen..but one thing they cannot hide..the never say sorry sincerely and are real arrogant people…totally no manners.
So what are they? …sickening hypocrites!!
With their self worthless…decorated stupid titles and stolen money…they keep fooling Malaysians.
Just look…Dollah advise Ahmad to apologise…he said no…yet Dollah dare not sack him.
Never in the histroy of UMNO…we all can see how weak the are now…like to each his own.
If you have a huge company CEO with subordinates can go againsa5t him…and yet..CEO cannot sack him..then that company will surely go bankcrupt.
The company is our country..and we appointed Dollah as CEO.
He has disappointed Malaysians…far too long.
We must get rid of them..at all cost.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 14:20:28
If Ahmad Ismail does not want to apologise, I think it is better to let the matter stop here and let rakyat judge him in future election. This issue has been used by some elders (you can guess who) to play up racial issue and it can be dangerous. These so-called ‘respected’ individuals can be very dangerous.
So, Pakatan Rakyat, don’t fall into these wayang kulit plays.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 15:34:10
Gerakan pull out today ??
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 16:22:05
wazzup, I got that SMS too but apparently it is a hoax as reported by The Star Online.
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/9/5/nation/20080905153206&sec=nation
Bah! Got me excited for a while!
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 16:38:05
wazzup, I have not heard any news on this. I do not think the Gerakan leaders will cross over. I have not received any news.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 16:54:07
dr hsu
no point in harping on this issue anymore. look, his stance is well supported by his fellow members in UMNO judging by the unanimous decision of all the 13 divisions in penang. moreoevr, mahatir instead of showing his statementship prefers to take this opportunity to stoke the fire with remarks which are unsavoury and wrong factually.
Dr Hsu, You have to accept this fact and move on.
As for those who have the vision for a Bangsa Malaysia, stand up and be counted. Work with a party that promulgates racial-blind policies tempered with humanity to help the poor. If we continue to show the kind of apathy, then dont gripe if this country is consumed by racism. Equally guilty will be political parties which continue their affiliation with those who espoused racism.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:09:18
Doc….Resign from Gerakan and disassociate yourself with those scumbags.
You saw so many top level guys left the party.
Be like what you are….with the word ‘Gerakan member” label… taken out.
Why do you want to bear that filthy reputation of Gerakan …now?….a gone case..no hope party?.
And if they pull out from UMNO…it is still not too late to join back…later…if that’s what you want.
Do a “Mahathir” stuff…to be far far away from crooks.
But Mahathir is a terrible smart crook….you are not a crook at all. Still..his resignation was smart move.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:13:26
A vote is so important in election.
Your resignation from Gerakan…is thousand times more important…since Gerakan is a small party.
Are you waiting for someone you know… to make the first move…then you follow?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:21:59
Don’t pressure Dr. Hsu, he is still waiting for the outcome of Oct 08.
In or out of Gerakan, Dr. Hsu is still a respected figure, to friends or foes.
But I believe he will ultimately out of Gerakan. Gerakan still has some sentimental value for him.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:21:59
al are equal some are just more equal ..all depend who is holding the gun? this time , seemed th e g un does have bullets..all the while a poker bluff?
walls are cracking…! when walls are cracking..one last stand?
what would happened then ?
your guess is as good as mine..run scare?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:23:00
dr . isnt now yr time to decide?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:26:22
the old horse …. DRM supported Ahmad claiming he is not wrong in his website….. if read carefully …. the old horse actually trying to instigate malays against other races …..
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 17:40:17
True Malaysian…By waiting till Oct 08..Gerakan so call election…is infact calculative and not totally sincere to the cause of change in government.
I hope I am wrong…but I hope he does not think like you too.
I put out my suggestions to Doc…based on for or against Anwar.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 18:29:37
If one is ‘for’ Anwar, it does not mean one must be in Pakatan Rakyat. This can be seen in PP by-election whereby Umno members were voting for Anwar.
So, Dr Hsu has shown his ‘political maturity’ here in supporting Anwar though still remain in Gerakan.
To me, what is important here is we are actually supporting Anwar’s ideology instead of ‘cult’ type of support. This is what I regard as ‘political maturity’ of which many politicians are lacking.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 19:01:04
Right….let’s not fall for the trap! They are trying to find a way out of the mess that they have created. They know they can’t win back the states that they have lost and that means no political power equals no money to be milked….just like what Lim Keng Yaik said……it’s all about money…money…money! Fan the racial issues enough to create animosity among the different races and you will have another May 13 in the making. Be very very careful here….some evil forces are at play and a repeat of 1969 would be disastrous for the country.
Let’s work smart and keep cool…God will be with us and we will win in the end!
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 19:21:36
Just ask yourselves, who were the one started 513 and still around now.
So, just ignore these wayang kulit. Malaysians are diffrent from 513 time or else you wouldn’t witness 803 tsunamy.
If 916 succeed, good, if not, just be patient. The last winners will have the loudest laugh…Hahaha.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 19:47:02
True Malaysian…Who is saying Doc is not matured enough to know what he must do?
Who is pressuring him?
Please don’t jump to wrong conclusions.
I am ADVISING him.
Good or bad advices….they meant well.
I thought you said…you hate politics…yet you are daily weighing the pros and cons on the political situation.
It’s difficult to understand your ulterior motives.
Anyway…Doc did not respond..means he agrees with you.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:04:40
I AM APOLITICAL, no ulterior motive, just wanna prove a point that Umno and BN ideology is outdated and we support PR ideology. Even those in Umno, MCA, MIC & Gerakan grassroots are voting PR. They are just wearing different badges.
Just let Dr. Hsu decides whether to throw away his badge or not.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:19:55
Mamak Kudat asked: Why did the government allow the Hindu Rights Action Force’s alleged racist remarks to go unchallenged while being very apologetic towards racial accusation against Umno leaders? He also said that when non-Malays uttered a racist remark, the Malays never demanded the authorities to apologise.
Since wen did the chinese utter racial remarks about the “malays”.?? By the way u r not a malay as u claimed to be. You are just a mamak dumb dumb.
Can Mamak tell us:-
– why the Hindraf members locked up under ISA?
-why this racial idiot was not locked up too under ISA?
As a matter of fact u also should also be locked up for uttering racial issues recently.
Wondering why u are still opening your old fat stinking mouth. Rakyat has enough of your bullshitting.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:29:31
Please explain what do you mean by ‘apolitical’?
You have been saying that dozens of time.
My enlgish is bad..please explain.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:48:31
Ahmad Ismail has proved a point. Umno is infested with such goons. Don’t blame Umno but the accomplices that are propping up the over-weight ship with holes.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:50:55
True Malaysian……Surely it does not take so long to explain ….what is ‘apolitical’?
You said it….so many times…surely it’s easy for you to teach me.
I am still waiting ,
Thanks
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:51:09
Having no involvment in politics = APOLITICAL
All I need is to vote wisely.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 20:51:44
Dr
Everyone knows that racial stuffs are wrong.
Gerakan is supporting the system. How can one be right ???
As a medical man, you should know, regardless of ideology, we share the same biology.
I had never + will never support BN, not because there is no capable people, but because she screams racial. Leave now Doctor + do our children a favor.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:00:00
But everyday you are talking politics!!
Are you not talking politics now with me?
If you want to vote wisely..then listen and don’t argue about politics….keep it to yourself…..mind your own business..
Not True Malaysian…you love talking CHINESE politics .
Are you not a two face man?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:02:19
Never heard of that word.
Anyone heard of that word?
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:04:31
It is perfectly alright if Dr. Hsu still choose to remain in Gerakan. After all, this is his rights.
Someone here is just ‘political immature’.
Siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas’.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:08:44
Is Gerakan a political party…..true malaysia?
Am I not talking politics to Doc?
Sure I am!!
Are you not given an opinion on a political message from me to Doc?
You see…deep inside you…I suspect…you want to support all ‘chinese’ parties.
That’s why you said you are 10% true malaysian……how right you are.
You will rojak the country with your two face personality.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:09:42
Someone is barking again, old habit dies had. Just ignore such barking…..I have to this someone a lesson again, Dr Hsu.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:15:13
You are entitled to your opinion, Mr. monsterball. Accord Dr. Hsu due respect.
Thanks cilipadi.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:26:53
There you go again!!
I DO RESPECT DOC!!
Thanks…”Jamesloh 18″…and “Looking for Hockey player for TVC”….writers.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:26:58
Politics is an arrangement for people of the same ideals to come under an umbrella.
Thus avoiding racial feuding, which equate to tribalism, which rear it’s ugly head recently in Europe’s Bosnia.
To avoid tribalism + unequalities, we must not promote them. That’s what BN is base on, unfortunately.
The choice is not whether Doctor should remain in Gerakan, but rather a right thinking person should practice such madness.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:32:24
Fantastic message……Looking for Hockey player for TVC.
I rest my case.
I meant well ALWAYS… for Doc.
I hope he is not easily influenced by instigator.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:46:12
My cili is real hot & spicy, very effective.
Siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas.
Again, beware SB.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 21:56:39
Quote from malaysiakini report, “Penang Umno backs Ahmad, snubs Pak Lah”
Ahmad called Gerakan acting president Dr Koh Tsu Koon as a “great liar and opportunist”, and said Gerakan can always “get out from Barisan Nasional”.
He even claimed BN would not have lost in Penang in the last general election if not for the incompetency of former chief minister Koh and Gerakan.”
“MCA could have won more seats if not for Gerakan,” he claimed.
He accused Koh and Gerakan of seizing the opportunity by using him as a pawn to resurrect their waning credibility, position and relevance among the Chinese community.
unquote:
Well Gerakan and Koh, do you still have your dignity? Reminds me of the time Ali Rustam challenged PPP to get out of BN if you’re not happy and PPP stayed.
I’ll like to hear Koh’s reply to this, if indeed he has enough spine to reply.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 22:37:28
From what I see, Gerakan has little choice but to consider seriously the question of leaving BN. The party should hold a referendum on whether to stay or leave BN. If the leadership continue to ignore the undercurrent, the party will bleed members until it becomes an empty shell.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 23:30:40
Dear all, thanks for everyone’s concern. My stand is very clear. I have even written articles supporting Anwar for PP by election, not for Anwar sake , but for what he represents . I have incurred a lot of displeasure of my leaders in doing so. And I have a feeling that they would want to see me leave so as not to rock the boat. Even UMNO people must be hoping that I leave as soon as possible so as not to rock their boats too, beacuse if Gerakan leaves, UMNO’s boat will be rocked to a certain extent.
But I see my responsibillity as a Gerakan member to guide the party back to its roots and ideology, and I would not leave now.. Why should I play into their hands and leave?
I have succeeded somewhat. Look at how many Gerakan members wanted out of BN now compared to afew months ago? Even Dr Lim Keng Yaik admitted in a interview recently that if a vote is taken now, most Gerakan memebrs would vote for the party to leave BN.
Many of our members, including some top leaders , read my blog and writings. . So my influence of trying to change our members mindsets and go back to its ideology of a fair and equal society is showing results, especially the younger members whom I have encouraged in my speech one year ago in our last year NDC to start their blogs and exert their influence. So many youngsters have taken my advice and together , our voices are getting louder and louder.
If it is showing results, then i would wait and see whether this wave would carry Gerakan out of BN and back to its roots or not.
These 2 months will be crucial. So let me finish my work… By getting Gerakan out of BN, it would do the budding 2 party system a lot of good, and it would strengthen the chance of change and strengthen non racial politics in Malaysia.
Now that Ahmad Ismail makes such attack on Gerakan, let us see how our leaders are going to answers to all the grassroots. The undercurrents which I mentioned in my writings 2 weeks ago is going to surface into a Tsunami…
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 23:44:39
These are the true colours of these people, just use your votes wisely.
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Sep 05, 2008 @ 23:52:50
Just one more point. I am in Gerakan not for positions or power or titles. Otherwise I wont be so vocal and run foul of the leadership.
I am in Gerakan for its ideology and since it has not been following ideology, I am trying to influence the members to take the party back to its ideology. The party members are the boss of the party, and not the leadership. So please do not just lump members and leader together.
It is just like when you feel angry with the government, you dont burn your flags or constitution. Instead, you choose those who will go back to the constitution.
I have credentials to say this, since inside the party, I am known as a person not succumbed to offers of positions or power.
No one has any hold on me, and i have no leash around my neck, that is why I am such a formidable voice inside the party. I speak from my conscience and my belief in party ideology.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 00:04:18
From the way this Penang Umno justify his non-apologetic stand, we can clearly see how Umno play ‘taichi’ by pushing bucks to Gerakan and instigating MCA at the same time for BN defeats in Penang.
So, where are the comradeship that they shout about? Should Gerakan and MCA just swallow whatever spitted out by Penang Umno?
I thought Pak Lah is the Penang Umno liason chief?
Malaysian politics really full of colours, very interesting as an outsider.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 00:30:28
Doc,
In all honesty, the way I see it… UMNO is racist! MCA is racist! MIC is racist! So do PGRM, as long as they stay put inside BN, they are racist too!
I’ve had various conversation with my malay friends and they too are divided! Some, outrightly supported UMNO, some supported PAS, some supported PKR and some others are undecided. But, I would like to highlight the sayings of my “undecided” friend that he is saddened with what he perceived as a disunity among the Malays. In his own word, the malays are divided into three while the other races are in unity regardless of their political ideology. I do not wished to offend him, so I just keep quite all the time…
However, I do find some relevance of his sayings in some postings here. If the malays would want to adopt the same stance of other fellow Malaysians inside this forum who still believed in the so-called “spirit” of BN, surely they will stand united under UMNO! I cant imagine what will happen to the nation if most of the malay are united under UMNO? can you imagine the outcome….?
Alas, my fellow malay are unselfish people. They are so simple in their way of life, are not materialistic, does not put the ringgit + cents into their calculations, are not manipulative, too trusting and to some extent, they are easily manipulated. Then by British and now by UMNO.
But, I do think the tide has changed now or are atleast sweeping through the hearts of the malay. Even though some UMNO guys will always preach that the malay will eventually lose everything once UMNO lose grip on the political power…
But again, as I’ve said it before, maybe we are indeed too trusting or too stupid to act on our moral conscience when the other races are being hesitant in making their stand. Except for my fellow Indians compatriots, I still see the Chinese as being hesitant. So please, my dear Chinese compatriots, we are all Malaysians. So, please stop being calculative this once and stay united as Malaysians. It’s about time to get rid of this BN mentality, once and for all…
Is that too much to ask?
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 00:36:19
Why is Gerakan and MCA members do not know there is inequality in Malaysia’s law ? They are either ignorance or pretend every Malaysian is treated equal under the law… are they really Malaysians???monsterball..
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 00:39:34
As for myself, as long as GERAKAN is inside BN, I dont give a damned about it…
Hmm, I’ve been thinking lately that perhaps, I too shall join any political party. UMNO is a definite NO. PAS or PKR might be too easy… So, perhaps DAP is a more relevance choice at the moment. I would love to see for my ownself, how far is the truth in the accusation that DAP is a “chinese chauvinist” party, hahaa…
What do you honestly think Doc? Just dont mentioned GERAKAN, as long as they are still in BN…
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 01:05:37
Anak Malaysia, you should join DAP.
Tunku ABdul Aziz is a person I respect a lot. He is well known, he is well off and he is a true example of a true Malaysian.
Why should he , at an advanced age of over 70, join a political party? He joined because he wanted to show people that DAP is not a chauvinistic party as made up by BN propaganda.
DAP ideology is similarly toi Gerakan. It advoctes a Malaysian’s Malaysia. Which means a Malaysia for everyone irrespective of race or religion. Something like Gerakan’s fair and equal society.
If Tunke Aziz can do that to prove to people that DAP is not a racist party, then I think my Malay brothers should join DAP and maybe one of them can become the top leader of DAP, championing the rights of all Malaysians.
So, it is up to Malay brothers to join DAp and realise its ideology.
I hope to live to see a day when a Malay brother heads DAP. Could it be you, Anak Malaysia?
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 01:12:33
Doc, i agree and respect your stand regarding staying in Gerakan. This is what I have advocated since HINDRAF exploded onto mainstream conscience – the grassroots must force the leaders to the correct path and if there are some leaders who have too much baggage to return to the right path, then it is the duty of the grassroots to overthrow/marginalize said leaders.
It is time to show the so-called leaders that they have no power if no one listens to them. I’m betting on Teng Hock Nam to push for separation while Chia Kwang Chye will be for BN. That is just my reading of the situation.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 01:30:35
Anak Malaysia,
I myself like Malay, especially the kampung Malay for their simpleness, easy to get along with, helpful and not so materialistic.
I am of the view that if someone of other race can get along with the Malay and have their confidence, then the Malay will help this someone in difficulty to the extent of scrifying himself.
But, being a simple race, they are subject to easy trusting people with ulterior motive behind, and once such trust is being betrayed, suspicion will arise and the relationship they once had with other races become irrepairable.
This is exactly what happened to some of the kampung Malays when they were betrayed by their Chinese friends. To me, to a very great extent, Chinese is the main culprit who introduces corruption to the Malay during the earlier days of nation building. This is why Lee Kuan Yew placed so much importance in preventing corruption during the infant stage of nation building of Singapore.
I know some of Chinese friends may disagree with me on this point, but I need to highlight here the weaknesses that we have as Chinese. Being a race with business in our blood, very often we overlook this point.
But, having said this, not all of us are good or bad. There are black sheeps in each of the community.
What is important here is to build up trust and confidence amngst us by understanding each other needs and characteristics and I can see this is being nurtured in PKR,DAP and PAS, where they are going back to the very basic of human values in governing those states in their hands.
So, more good things going to happen? I really hope so.
Cheers to you Anak Malaysia for sharing out what our Malay friends think, and hope we can discuss any topics under the sun, bravo.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 01:42:11
Anak Malaysia,
Yes, you should join DAP. DAP is multiracial and keep religion out of politics. I think Tunku Abdul Aziz join DAP not so much of its multiracial ideology, but one party that keep religion out of politics.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 02:28:15
The reality is both DAP and Gerakan were founded on sound ideology.
Unfortunately over time, the image both parties gave to the public reflected the dominant personalities of individuals within the party.
In DAP’s case, the image we have of them today is still that of yesteryears when they were the sole non-sectarian party fighting against secularism hence the need to be rabble-rousers to gain publicity.
In Gerakan’s case, the image we have of them is that of recent years where they drifted from their founding ideology for the sake of political expediency and not helped at all by a current weak leader.
If both can remain true to their founding ideology without too much politicking by DAP and too little politicking by Gerakan, you will find not much to differentiate between the 2.
I’ve reserved comment on PKR since it is relatively young (10 years) and was founded on an event, Anwars sacking from UMNO, rather than an ideology.
Though I must admit that PKR is moving in the right direction at the moment, it needs strong personalities other than Anwar to come forward and take leadership roles so as to ensure its long term viability and survivability.
Dr Hsu,
I wrote something about KTK’s statement about reconsidering Gerakan’s position in BN.
http://romerz.blogspot.com/2008/09/cojones-finally-but-wee-bit-too-small.html
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 03:56:53
Thank you Doc..for appreciating our concern…and it is your life…your final decision…which makes what is a man…to think and do… what he thinks are right or wrong.
However…this is about one important vote ….one… for or against …which ..as a freedom fighter…I am concern about.
You have praised me….few times..on my clear stand.
And all those actions are about the future of our younger generations…..nothing for personal.
I would have done same thing…..even if I am 35 years old.
True Malaysian once said….I have lived long enough…..seen enough..so can do what I did.
That is how he thinks…and that’s not true.
Thousands very young well educated Malaysians are doing exactly what I am doing.
It is the timing of the right situations….conditions…that one must fight.. for or against….change of government….standing clearly …where one must be…….like a real man…not like one….on the middle….to swing where the wind blows..to benefit himself……making all sorts of excuses….sound so intelligent..but really does not hold waters.
Yes….true malaysian is 10& Malaysians and now I know he his 90% is true chinese.
In that sense…he is a smart racialist….that survive very well….under UMNO and BN.
As for your final decision…..sounds logical……but in a battlefield….not logical.
Anyway..you feel you can do better by sacrificing yourself..even being misunderstood..to do the things you think…are right for the future of young generations.
This afternoon…I had lunch with one of my very rich friend…showing to me…his new shopping complex he bought…real huge one…with a real unique idea…for shoppers…only one kind in Malaysia..
He said….he told his son in Australia not to come back.
That triggers me….to give him long lecture and asking him …few questions…that he was caught surprised……all focusing one more vote..must be here…in our beautiful country…to add strength to our new found freedom…….especially from Malaysian Chinese.
Strange… he love Malaysia….yet he advised his son to stay oversea.
The truth is…he feels his son is too soft..weak…and Malaysia is unstable. That will be too long a story to tell you. In the end..he agreed his son should come back…to work here…as I advised…but we both agrees….it is up to his son.. own final decisions…not ours.
But you are more than 50 years old!!!
All I know…I am actually talking to an enemy of my camp….based on …for or against.
But both of us are far more intelligent to know….we are not enemies at all.
So what are we..Doc…you in Gerakan…I am risking my live to fight those UMNO and BN bastards…and hate to picture you ….as one…at that camp….which you really is…right now.
This is confusing…..and this is pure politic….we are talking about.
Lets not pretend it to be ….otherwise.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 04:45:18
Yes…two months is not asking too much o know where you stand…in the future.
It’s just that…if your final decision is made before 16tb September…it is more meaningful…….sine this is the real time….for or against ..should be declared by all Malaysians.
PS: Jeff….I read and noted your comment. They are Malaysians under the law…..but very selfish and cunning people…..learning the art …how to survive…supporting UMNO’s doctrines…with no feelings for others.
Most Chinese are influenced by MCA and Gerakan….which are really very small amount… compared to the huge huge support for DAP….now keDAILan.
If that was not the case….DAP would have been buried long long ago.
But the future looks good. more and more Malaysians Chinese are 100% committed to change of government…FOR.. Perkatan Rakyat….not say..yes they support..and at the back…say another thing.
Anyway..you can read the person’s character from all the messages put out….including mine.
Some are so clear…like Doc’s and mine….including yourself.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 08:19:25
Hello all Malaysian, this is my first post on Dr.Hsu blog, I stumble on Dr.s writing only a few months ago.
I was asked regarding a race question by my boss a few days ago, it would not happen in real but the question did click my simple mind.
He ask me like this, if the chinese race is replace by the British mak salleh race, helping to built the nation after Merdeka, with the Malay race and Indian race, just like what actually happen but only the chinese is replaced by the mak salleh.
The questions are:-
1) Which race would be the”Tuan” today?
2) Which race would be controlling the country economy ?
and the following is ask by myself ++”
1) Which race will be driving the country today ?
2) Which race will kena marginalise ?
Still got a lot of questions in my mind, and you all can continue the question if you want.
and Monsterball, flame me if you need it ^^
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 09:35:59
hi ‘Uncle’ writer….on behalf of Doc. and all…..welcome!
Firstly we don’t need the British. They love to divide and rule.
Secondly….if the country is managed sincerely by UMNO….by now..we should have a Malaysian Chinese PM… as with unity …no different races…everyone is a Malaysians.
Thirdly….All are tuans…bapak..ibu….addressed as we see fit with respects. No false knighthoods title. All titles..should be thrown out.
It was started with good intentions….to follow England’s way..but UMNO rojak it…to make it now…a laughing stock to the world…with prisoners…rapists..taxi drivers…not one really did anything good…are all ….knighted with…Datuks…Tan Sri and Tun.
Poor noble good souls…deserving such titles are lumped in with these crooks..feeling shameful to use their titles.
Lastly…..no one will be marginalised…falsely charged without trial….go to ISA….if our politicians are clean and righteous human humans.. in politics…for the love of the country and the people..with real freedom..of speech and religions.
UMNO and BN….race and religion dirty politics must be thrown out at all cost. It was out-dated 25 years ago….yet they continue.They are cruel…cunning and corrupted to the core..making Malaysians suffer..right now…using all sorts of cunning excuses….to cover up their braggart attitudes…stealing from us…with no regrets.
Best example…Mahathir. That man is a devil.
And my flame of fire is reserved for idiots…selfish blokes…hypocrites…definitely… not to you.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 09:39:35
And majority Malaysians are seeing to that..with no favouritism to any politician.
Anwar must be PM…..to change the government….simple as that.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 09:57:24
Just wonder if this someone a political party member, can pass judgement on the other people.
It seems this someone is a fighter and want people to think llike him, sound like him and fight like him. He proclaimed himself as more Malaysian than the others.
He is a tough nut to crack but hope he does not think like a nut.
By the way, Uncle, welcome aboard. You make me feel young by calling you ‘uncle’.
Siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:10:09
many fellow readers, rest assured that I am with the people who want change, like most of you .
I have always gone above partisan politics. My message for people of PP in the recent by election, which was carrried in malaysianInsider, is a good example. I am a Gerakan member but asking people to vote for change. The 2 things are not contradictory, as I follow the ideology and not the leadership.
I have repeatedly mentioned that there are many good and conscientious members in Gerakan who want the same things as you and me.
They also want change and to them change is only way to move the country forward again. They joined Gerakan because they believe in the
ideology, which is similar to DAP and PKR. these grassroots are like you and me, they really wanted a fair and equal siociety. These people do not support UMNo. Joining Gerakan does not equate to supporting UMNO.
Many of them are veterans of Dr Lim Chong Eu’s era. Some even came for meeting walking with canes. They are die hard socialist, these people. Others join in 2004 when they saw hope in Pak Lah , but was utterly disappointed these few years.
These people are like you and me, small people who have no influence, no desire to be someone big, no ambition, no business connection… . And they are not full time politicians. They have their own jobs and so on. These people would not campaign for UMNO’s race based politics, and they believe in their leaders who told them how hard they fought inside BN for the good of the people. They were never told until recently only, that the relationship is that of a master and slave, or beggars. they were simply misled by some of the leaders.
Many of them are clamouring for the party to leave BN even as early as 2 to 3 years ago, after Pak lah has failed to deliver what was promised in 2004. But they stay because of the camaraderie, because of their friends.
Talking about votes, many of these people voted for opposition in the last generation. As I had mentioned, they joined because of the belief in ideology. That does not mean they sell themsleves to the party.
these people are very independent minded, and they vote like you and me, following thir own conscience. Only thing they are not organised, not actively seeking change. They are the silent majority on the ground.
The party is not wrong. It is soem of those leaders who have misled the members and who have skewed the ideology for their own self interest. now, a lot of these silent majority is starting to be vocal.
So it is really not a case of you are either with me or against me. There are a lot of grey areas. You can be with me but still against me.
It does not mean that if you are a Gerakan member , you need to obey what they leader tell you to do. You need only follow the consitution and ideology, and not the leader blindly. If the leaders do not follow ideology, it is the member’s right to criticise and bring the party abck to the right path.
Just like if the government leaders are wrong, you criticise and opt not to choose them again. The same principle applies. It does not mean that if the government leaders are wrong, you just jump overseas and leave. You stay back and fight. That is what I am doing, same analogy. That is why i choose to come back to malaysia when I could have comfortably been a doctor somewhere else.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:13:48
Doc can add alot of influece…if he resign now. There are always…..two sides of a story.
I am thinking so many GERAKAN ordinary members maybe inpsired by his bold act…to resign too!!
He has spoken…loud and clear. …why he wish to stay.That’s the other side of the story…and that’s his rights……….provided I feel like him….all is well …why rock the boat?
The boat I am talking about ..is Malaysia’s future.
And the future of young generations..is nothing to laugh about…..when the conditions and situations favours change of government….why not add one more vote to it?
And Doc’s vote is not like us…ordinary unimportant folks.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:15:40
Uncle, welcome to the blog. Hope you can share with us more of your views. It does not matter whether such views ruffle other’s feathers, as long as you believe i it.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:24:46
Beware! There are people around who wanted to get rid of dissenting voices in BN component parties so that their leaders would not be forced to take the parties outof BN . They are something like SBs, in fact they are part time SBs.
What is better than to instigate Dr Hsu to leave and make Gerakan peaceful again?With a vocal fellow out of the party, no one will rock the boat. Thin about this possibility.
These SBs will say all sorts of things to saboteur his job of bringing Gerakan out of BN.
beware!
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:26:26
Doc…I respectfully disagree with you keep saying..’the party is not wrong”…for Gerakan.
Mahathir was not wrong also in the first 10 years.
If you understand Gerakan’s ideology…then you go and trace back…how many years have those leaders broken… the ideology?
What ideology.I don’t know or care.
Actions speak louder than words..and what actions have Gerakan been doing all these 18 years or so? It’s like having a good son…a father loves…so much…now turned to cheat..con and rape…into becoming a real devil follower ..for 18 years….stealing and cheating…still do not want to disown him…with no love for the victims.
Victims are least in that father’s mind.
Do you think that father is right?
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:31:11
pls read my comment posted on 5th September 11.30pm. It is more useful to have the whole party come out of Bn than just one or 2 members.
i rest my case, and I am not talking anymore on this…
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 10:43:46
I am also not talking on this subject at this post…maybe….inspired to talk again..after 16th Sept…….hahahahahaaha
Now go and enjoy my weekend..with my lovely family.
Have a nice weekend…..DOC AND ALL.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 11:03:56
Let me end this subject by thanking Dr.Hsu, Monsterball and cilipadi the very warm welcome.
cilipadi: Monsterball also call me Uncle ^^
p/s you all are free to continue if you need to
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 14:59:18
Uncle,
Someone seems to be tough a nut to crack as seen here in repetitive explanations by Dr. Hsu. Many of us are clear of Dr. Hsu’s stand and even True Malaysian help in clearing his doubts and yet….
Maybe, as I said, he is thinking like a nut. bewareSB is right. Maybe this someone is one of them? Who knows, Uncle?
Siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas. This someone does not belongs to any party, but is…..Your guess?
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 16:08:06
A Malaysian 007…license to kill.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 16:10:24
Then I will have one to C4 you too!
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 16:13:42
Or kidnap you ….tie two cement bricks..throw you to Pulau Batu Puteh.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 16:16:47
Dare to meet me….I will execute you..one bullet at the head!
Maybe..shoot your balls and let you live…depending on my moods.
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Sep 06, 2008 @ 19:37:41
Uncle,
This ‘uncle’ someone so angry, don’t play with him, not sporting, no fun.
siapa makan cili, dia rasa sangat pedas.
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 00:15:34
You are next……talking cock with your seedless stupid.. cilipadi.
After 16th Sept. dare to meet me?
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 00:49:47
Your nick is,,,’uncle”…so goes the respect.
That does not mean I call you uncle…..like an older man than me. I am 69.
You are ok…clever to chose such a nick…getting everyone to respect you…smart guy you are.
I guess you now know…why I choose my nick too…….hahahahahaha
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 02:03:37
Doc,
I see your point. Than stay put in GERAKAN! Make sure you’ll always be vocal and do whatever you can to make sure the grassroots and the leadership will come to their senses and vote to leave BN. Make sure the laeadership “backside” will always be hot! Haiyaa, banyak panas, tak boleh tahan hahahaa….
I’ll give you just one point, for you to forward this to any sane people in GERAKAN. Make sure you said that to KSK and LKY! To be true to it’s non-sectarian ideology, GERAKAN must have members from various races. Well know this… As long as GERAKAN is within BN, I doubt that there will be any malay or indians who will be allowed to join GERAKAN at all. The reason is simple. First, any malay under BN will be represented by UMNO and Indians by either MIC or PPP. I doubt that UMNO or MIC will allow for any malay or indians to join GERAKAN just like that…, right?
So, buy being in BN GERAKAN is actually making a mockery of their own Ideology. A non-sectarian party simply CAN NOT be inside a sectarian based coalition, with sectarian based party. PERIOD!
Make sure you said that to LKY and KSK…
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 02:16:49
True Malaysia,
I’m not interested in politics. The only reason why I said that I might opt to be in DAP is because I want to see for my own self on what DAP represents. That’s all…
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 15:16:22
I agree with Killi Valavan:
Dr M compares cases like Hindraf & Namewee etc. with Ahmad Ismail saying why Hindraf & Namewee did not apologise when Ahmad and his high level representaive apologised.
Dr M either is senile or a big hell being because he knowingly compared Hindraf’s case & Namewee’s case when he knows that Hindraf is just trying to fight for some social justice and Namewee, this young student did not mentioned any racist things but expressed his dissatisfaction of the malaysian on unfair practice.
Dr M knowingly or senilely tried to instigate racial hatred again.
Ekil Namom
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 15:19:58
To Ekil Namom:
Actually Namewee did apologise and via Dr Chua Sua Lek in a Press Conference.
KC Mei
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 16:42:57
Dr Hsu, kindly allow me some space in your blog to comment on your “Is everyone equal under the law”.
As I have always believed, loyalty to a country must come from the heart as it’s the only place where you can truly feel it. If you want a citizen of a country to be loyal to her, in heart and in deeds, treat him/her as equal. I gave up my citizenship to become an Australian more than 20 years ago because I wanted to be loyal to a country that treats all her citizens equal under the constitution, irrespective of race, colours and beliefs. Sure, there may be racial bigotry in everyday life, but the laws uphold the rights and equality of every citizen. And that’s the kind of country I want my children and grand children to grow up in. It gives me comfort to know that should I be wronged, the laws are there to protect me just like it would protect all citizens of the country. And that alone makes me mighty proud and loyal to be a citizen of Australian.
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 17:18:06
Steven,
I am very happy for you to have found yourself and family a place you can proudly proclaim ‘home’.
While many of you ex-Malaysians can have the means and opportunities to do that, there are equally many of the ‘unfairly treated Malaysians’ that chose to remain in Malaysia to fight for fairness and equality.
For me, I neither have the means nor opportunity to go elsewhere but just remain at this piece of land I fondly regard as ‘homeland’.
I believe since I am powerless to fight against the powerful, I would use my vote wisely and continue to share my thoughts which I think may be useful for those powerful to ‘chew’ and ‘digest’.
As for you and many more Malaysian Australians, I hope to see more of you guys can share your thoughts too. After all, the world is getting smaller and if your former ‘home’ become a ‘dreamland’, you may choose to stop-by and pay us a visit.
Glad that you found happiness down there.
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 21:52:31
September 16th will just be another ordinary day . If you think there will be a change in government , Dream ON
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 22:01:09
All this while, Malaysian has been taught to hate each others (by the racist political parties promoting the interests of their own race). But often we forget, our world are now toward globalisation. But, still we are wasting our time to kill each other. Why fighting for small cake locally? Why can’t we work together for more cake outsides our country? Don’t they know others country like Veitnam, Thailand are fast moving forward? Don’t they know, they are watching the world “di bawah tempurung”? PLEASE WAKE UP NOW!!! OUR FROG ALIKE LEADERS.
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Sep 07, 2008 @ 22:50:54
Thank you for the explanation , mr Monsterball!
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 00:23:51
Thank you True Malaysian, for your kind words. Rest assured we “ex-Malaysians”, wherever we may have chosen to domicile, would always be with you in mind and spirit. The one thing that our newly adopted country has taught us is, fair and equality to all human beings. Nothing comes close to basic human rights. That would be the least I would offer my future generations!
Believe me, our hearts will always be with the land that we were born in. As the saying goes, you can take me out of Malaysia, but you can never take the Malaysian out of me.
My family and I wish you all a huge success in the soon-to-be realized REFORMASI! Go….Malaysians….GO!!!
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 03:08:37
Steven,
About the your choice of migrating and your feeling that “you can take me out of Malaysia, but you can never take the Malaysian out of me”, i’ll leave it up to you. it’s your rights to do whatever you feel is the best for you and your family. as a human being, i can understand that!
However, as a Malaysian i truly feels sad that you eventually decided to relinquish the citizenship of this country. this is what a true Malaysian at heart shouldn’t have done. yes, we are far from perfect. yes, we have our shortcomings and yes, our country really sucks where politics are concerned.
Unfortunately, running away from the problem is not part of the equation to have a better future for us Malaysians. Never is and never will be…
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 07:39:11
Steven…Yes ..you go with our blessing too.
No need for you to give us your good wishes.
We are patriots….thinking about Malaysia….sacrificing ourselves for Malaysians. So many have so much chances to leave like you…yet we stay put in our beloved country…for better or for worst.
Yes..better you go..before you prove you are another 10% Malaysian…90% Chinese.
Goodluck to your future.
Don’t come back!!
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 09:37:57
Steven,
Someone should his forefather(s) why they chose not to remain in China to fight for equality but migrate to Malaya.
Even some of my Malay friends still regard Indonesia as their homeland.
So, don’t get disheartened to give your views. This forum is open and doesn’t belongs to this someone.
siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 14:11:45
Thank you cilipadi. Very sensible comment indeed. Let’s not waste time with that senile 69 years old who aptly calls himself “monsterball”
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 16:45:39
yip ..I have a monsterball…brave enough to stake my rights in Malaysia.
Steven can go to hell..for all we care.
And cilipadi can join him….sooner the better.
Chinese migrate from China… to all over the world..and only chinese in Malaysia….so damn smart…are migrating again ..all for selfish reasons.
So say it straight forwardly…and don’t blame this or that..as reasons….for their selfish reasons.
Maybe cannot get a good job here??….ok…migrate….just tell the natural reasons…and don’t poke fire or encourage others to migrate.
Malaysian Chinese are the most selfish people in Malaysia..comparing to other races.
Calling me a senile old man…really means Steven is a bullshitter….cannot face the truths.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 16:53:00
Anak is diplomatic to Steven.
Chilpadi….carry balls
Monsterball is a senile old man………so said Steven…But I am respected by so many!! This means Steven is saying those who respect me are all crazy people…hahahahahaha
What a smart man he is.
NO wonder he likes chilipadi,.,.,.,.,.hahahahahaha
Come to think of it…go fast..no lost to Malaysia…with cow brain like his….hahahahahaha.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 17:06:09
An ex Malaysian like Steven…wishing all Malaysians the best..of our future.
Running away..yet no shame.
For all you know…he may feel so guilty…did something wrong…and run away…knowing new government under Anwar will not tolerate corruptions.’
For all we know….he is a corrupted fella!!
Who knows!!
So he is now going to carry white skin balls…few months later…visit us ..talking with a Aussie slang….feeling so proud…washing dishes at Sydney China town…because balls carrying Aussies cannot get him…the job he wants.
.
Senile old man …..you say??
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 17:16:59
Treat me nice…give me your educational details and working experiences…. I will get my head hunting company in Australia to get you a fine job..with great salary..free of charge.
You don’t know who monsterball is … to Australians yet..you moron…..you china-arpian jarkun….calling me senile..when Doc Hsu…said I am a wise man?
Worst insult ..so far.’ Chilipdai likes to play and have fun with me…you no balls man..running away from Malaysia….wants to insult me???
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 19:21:23
Dear readers, once again I would like to ask you all not to be carried away.
Discuss the more important things.
Look at the big picture.
Personal things are not important.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 20:45:52
Dr. Hsu,
It is best that we ignored monsterball. I am really annoyed but impressed with your patience.
But you are not the patient, monsterball is.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 21:10:28
Dr. Hsu,
Perhaps you should have a poll to see whether to bar this monsterball from this forum. He is really annoying.
I expect he (or she?) would come back strongly on me, but I would treat him as ‘transparent’.
All agree to have this poll? I raise my legs and hands for this. 4 votes for YES now, anymore?
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 21:14:12
i am going to modulate comments the next 2 days, in order not to let things get out of hand.
Please respect the freedom that this blog has given all readers. No more personal attacks.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 21:32:50
Yes..annoyed writer….your idea is excellent and accepted.
Someone provoked me….and I cannot defend myself?
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 22:00:14
Lets start the poll, Dr. Hsu.
Monsterball has agreed to have such poll.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 22:14:04
annoyed, i dont think we should start this poll, not for anything but for the fact that we should reserve our energy in voicing ot our concern for the country.
I subscribe to the belief that everyone can contribute his or her opinion to help make Malaysia a better place.
Of course, the route is not smooth. There will be ups and downs . There will be difference in opinions, there will be arguments and so on. But if everyone can observe the rule of no personal attack, then things will not get out of hand.
I am not online all the time. ANd it is impossible for me to be online all the time. So some comments with personal degradations do slip out.
I will try to be more vigilant. ANd when I am not online, maybe I should keep the comments in queue for me to modurate later. BUt this is an option that I would rather not take, as a person who believe in freedom of speech.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 22:29:33
I respect your decision, Dr. Hsu.
I just wish monsterball can control his temper here and not to be overzealous that offending commentators such as Steven, cilipadi, labelling someone as 10% Malaysian and so on.
All these left a very bad taste that will drive genuine commentators away. This forum should invite all nationality to put in their thoughts even though they may be ex-Malaysians. It is not nice to label people as not patriotic and so on.
I hope monsterball is receptive of my advice. You should learn how to accept people’s view. Even if you do not agree with the views, please don’t INSULT people. This only reflect what kind of person you are.
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Sep 08, 2008 @ 22:37:39
Doc is wise and do love freedom of speech.
Unfortunately…in blogging with faceless and nameless visitors….coming in to judge others…not commenting….not contributing….just simple want to insult…irritate…to have fun…and I am mostly targeted.
Some are braggarts…..feeling smart to leave Malaysia..give up Malaysian citizenship….yet we have a Malaysian.. talking so nice to this deserters.
This I cannot accept as …if I keep quiet…youngsters will learn the wrong things.
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Sep 09, 2008 @ 00:36:18
monsterball, I sincerely apologize if I have offended you. Let’s not insult each other any more as this is not helping the cause. As it is, I believe Malaysians have plenty to worry about right now. And I know, being born and raised in your wonderful country, most Malaysians are simple and honest people. As I have said, we are all on the same side working to make a change to the present political make-up and although I no longer carry the rights to vote, however, I am with you all in mind and spirits.
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Sep 09, 2008 @ 08:58:05
Steven,
You are great. I couldn’t find anything that warrant you to apologise. Someone here and the Ahmad should in fact learn from you to have such wisdom.
Siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas.
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Sep 09, 2008 @ 16:13:17
Steven….I live in Malaysia. Good or bad…I have to live with it.
And many are teaching youngsters…wrong things.
As for you apology……I accept.
And you can see…two faceless…nameless people…one call …’annoyed’ …trying to teach me….a freedom fighter…….how to behave.
One young sicko will love to instigate….irritate.
Go build your future as you plan.
So many millions are mind and spirits with Malaysians too…..but you are one exception person….you are not a foreigner.
You are like us…gave it up…and be one .like them…wishing us well.
That to me…..is strange….and I will leave it…just that.
I have people in Australia….with businesses….all over Australia. All are my relations..all Australian citizens. For past 20 years….everyone welcome me to live there.
I only visit..I love my country..for better or worst..will stay put….in Malaysia.
And for the first timer in more than 50 years…I can sense real freedom .real unity…real identity as one…The Malaysians.
Who made this come true?
By so many good wishes or by actions and deeds done….you go and guess.
Thanks.
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Sep 10, 2008 @ 13:10:19
To ALL Penangites
Please Boycott this Shell Petrol Station owned by the Racist Ahmad Ismail
Is the ISLAND GLADES SHELL If you use the tunnel from Pg Bridge the first Shell station outside Gembira is the right one . Not the one I mentioned above .
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