Go back to the people, Perak !

Perak is now teetering on the brink. With the possible  ‘hopping’ of State Assemblymen from one party to another ( one has already done so from UMNO to Pakatan), everything seems to be in total chaos.

 This is especially so when one of the assemblymen said to have resigned from his DUN  position denied having resigned, claiming that the letter of resignation was a pre-signed one when Pakatan became the government after March 8 election.

So will UMNO entice more of Pakatan assemblymen to cross over or will Pakatan entice more of UMNO’s people to cross over? It is rather comical, but with so much of politicking around, the people would be the one to suffer.

While this sandiwara is being played out, I wish to remind politicians of both sides that they must not forget the simple cardinal rule of democracy: that it is the people who have chosen them, and it is the people that they should go back to if they intend to change side. In other words, anyone who wish to cross over should go back to the people to get a fresh mandate.

By doing so, we can ensure that the people hold the power to decide whether that particular assemblyman should change side or not… It will certainly minimise the chances of a assemblyman being “bought’ , either with materials things or positions.. It will also ensure that anyone wishing to cross over acts genuinely in the interest of the people and not just for self interest.

In the case of Perak,  there are calls already in the blogs (my blog mate romerz is one of them) for a fresh election be called. It may not be a bad idea, since a decisive result in favour of either Pr or Bn in a fresh election would cut down on politicking and would enable the people’s representatives to concentrate on their duties instead of trying to entice each other over. there is of course no guarantee that a result similar to March 8 cannot occur, but it is certainly in the principles of democracy to let the people decide again , since the State is now teetering on the brink of instability.


36 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. A true Malaysian
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 10:42:27

    Dr. Hsu,

    It is more appropriate for “Go back to the people, Malaysia”.

    With the run up to Umno election in Mar 09, and chaotic internal party fights within Umno, somebody out there need to come out with something like jumping parties from PR to BN to “window dress” the chaotic situation in Umno, so to paint “nothing seriously happening” in Umno to outsiders like me.

    Except for what happening in Perak, I don’t think PR Mp and Adun will bite the carrots hanged out for them by Umno. Instead, there should be another way round that Umno Mp and Adun will jump over to PR.

    The different here is that PR did not hang any carrot.

    But having said the above, I am against all these jumping as these only reflect a person’s righteousness, integrity and honesty. For those Umno MP and Adun to jump over to PR, they should discard totally their old Umno’s mentality that hinged on patronage politics, otherwise, they will spread the disease to PR, and Malaysia will go back to square one.

    Last but not least, “Go back to people, Malaysia”. This is what Pak Lah can do for Malaysia before he quits. If not, he will leave a legacy that no Malaysia will be proud of. PM Pak Lah cannot just ignore that his legacy is not important. Legacy is there no matter what, either it is good or bad.


  2. Francis
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 11:18:00

    State seats to be lost by Umno in case of a snap by-election.

    1. Rungkup in Bagan Datok: UMNO won by 454 (2,330 in 2004)

    2. Sungai Manikin P. Salak Umno won by 1,374 (3,599 in 2004)

    3. Kampong Gajah, P. Salak Umno won by 1,415 (over 5,000 in 2004)

    4. Chenderiang in Tapah. Won by MCA by 50% reduced margin. PKR fielded an Indian in a pure Chinese base. Will be corrected.

    5. Ayer Kuning in Tapah (Umno won by 3,252. Close to 7000 in 2004). However, research shows the Umno candidate got 74% of the 48% non-Malay electorate. Now those non-Malays will vote for PAS which fielded a candidate here.

    6. Tualang Sekah in Kampar. Umno won by 1,500 (3,500 in 2004). PKR fielded an Indian in the majority Malay seat. Though he did well, fielding a Malay here will beat the pulp out of Umno. Non-Malays are 43%
    7. Sungai Rapat. Umno won by 636 against Pas. Hamida Osman, the DUN here is the one who called Indians snakes later after she won. Her majority in 2004 was over 6,000 but she survived by 600 in 2008. Pas will win outright here. Furthermore, PKR V.President is the MP here (Gopeng).

    8. Belanja in Parit. Pas lost by over 1,800 (over 3,000 in 2004) due to non-Malay vote in 2008. With Umno taking a dig at the non-Malays and Pas accomdating them, and with Perak’s large non-Malay vote, Umno will lose every seat it won in March 08 due to the fear of Pas and the fact that PKR was unknown.

    9. Bota is in Parit. The canidate defected to PKR and will retain his seat. Yesterday he said the pple who came to welcome him couldn’t be obtained even during his Ceramahas in March 08.

    10. Pengkalan Baru. Umno won by 14 votes only. Yes 14 votes (over 2,200 in 2004). Pas swept the Malay vote but got less non-Malay vote. Today, Pas will retain malay vote and obtain non-Malay vote. That 14 votes for Umno will be 1,400 votes for Pas victory KT style.
    11. Bukit Chandaran in Kuala Kangsar. Umno won by 1,600 votes (close to 6,000 in 2004). With Rafidah Aziz on her way out (she won by 1,000 unlike 5,600 in 2004), Umno will lose here.

    12. Manong in K. Kangsar. Umno won by 749 (2,353 in 2004). Pas will sweep Malay vote and get non-Malay vote as well while PKR can obtain its one ADUN here.
    13. Manjoi in Tampun. Umno won by 348 votes. Yet in 2004, it was close to 8,000 majority.

    14. Lintang in Sungai Siput. Umno won by 1,376 (5,389 in 2004). PKR controls Parliament while DAP has the other DUN by a big margin.

    15. Chenderoh in Padang Rengas of Nazri bloody racist Aziz. Umno won by 1,749 votes (4,771 in 2004). Note that Nazri survived by a whisker yet had a big win in 2004. Umno is losing further and further.The other DUN won captured by Pas ousting Umno.

    16. Kamuting in Taiping. Umno won by 555 votes (4,571 in 2004). DAP has the Parliament seat here and Pas will cash on that apart from ISA is haram votes. Kamuting Prison is here.

    17. Trong in Bukit Gantang (Pas captured the MP). Umno won by 916 votes (3,020 in 2004). It has a decent 30% non-Malay vote. PAS will win here.
    18. Alor Bongus in Bagan Serai. (PKR Malay candidate outsted UMNO MP here). Umno won the DUN by 95 votes (3,416 in 2004). PKR to easily capture the DUN
    19. Selama in Larut. Umno won by 355 votes (2,053 votes in 2004).

    20. Kubu Gajah in Larut. Umno won by 66 votes (1,403 in 2004).


  3. Eric
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 12:33:28

    @Dr Hsu;
    sorry for sounding sycophantic, but I have always thought we’d have better in the BN if Gerakan and your good self were more listened to. Sadly, the day belongs to the extremists, corrupts and racists in the wake of UMNO internal elections.

    I usually agree with your analyses, however I feel uncomfortable with your use of race. For instance, “PKR fielded an Indian in a pure Chinese base. Will be corrected” reeks of things we would all like to see only in history books.


  4. A true Malaysian
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 12:59:41


    I hope to see in time to come, we could see PR candidates are being fielded based on their qualification, dedication and righteousness rather than their skin colours matches to what race the constituency majority in.

    Let’s us start with ourselves to gear toward that kind of direction. Our mindsets were being to deep influenced by more than 50 years rule of Umno (not BN).


  5. petestop
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 13:25:45

    Ya, man, many Perakians will felt cheated if the state govt change hands by defection.

    The right thing to do is to call a state wide snap election.

    I will make sure I’m back in Perak to do my part.

    One potential complication may be the Sultan’s blessing for a snap election. Which we Perakians hope that the choice should be given back to the people.


  6. klm
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 13:35:02

    Welcome to Absurdistan

    We have to rename Malaysia as Absurdistan. (Absurdistan is a term to describe a country in which absurdity is the norm, especially in its public authorities and government. )

    This country is getting absurd. With all job losses and business closing, we have this silly thing going on in Perak. At the same we have all these political problems everywhere. Politics is the number one obsessions. Who is manning the shop?

    Perhaps, we should call a truce. All parties unite to survive this economy downturn. No pinching assemblymen. Share all resources between BN, Pakatan states and Federal Govt.

    If we dont, Malaysia will become Arrghanistan.
    (the dead country).


  7. A true Malaysian
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 13:53:05

    Traditionally, except for Sarawak, state and federal general elections were being held at the same time, for apparent reason of cost saving.

    If Perak going ahead with its snap state election, then economical wise, it doesn’t make sense. This may be the consideration that Sultan Perak need to weigh before consenting in MB Mohd Nizar requests for it.

    With this in mind, I doubt the Sultan will grant his consent to such request.

    It is better for all parties to go for snap general election at state and federal levels, Sarawak inclusive, to decide once and for all.

    Malaysia cannot afford to waste another year in political turbulence like 2008. Let’s 2009 be a different ball game in combating global recession and stop these nonsense politiking.


  8. Richard Loh
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 13:58:18

    So will UMNO entice more of Pakatan assemblymen to cross over or will Pakatan entice more of UMNO’s people to cross over?

    Now the big question no one ask. What does “entice” constitute of?

    If for positions, that can be acceptable, but it is true that millions are offered for cross over? There must be ways that the MACC can identify if such a big sum of money exchange hands. And again the perception of MACC is that they are still under umno control!

    umno and gang can call all sort of names when someone from their side cross over to the opposition but they are so happy and even the pm is claiming that many from the opposition are crossing over to bn and they forget what they curse earlier about the cross over.

    The way things are happening in this country is simply the doing of umno and once we get rid of umno the people of this country can live more peacefully.

    And to get rid or humble umno, bn component parties must know what to do and not keep kow towing to them. Although they keep on saying about changes, do we see any, still the same old arrogant ways.


  9. Dr Hsu
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 13:59:16

    As I have often mentioned, the country is on autopilot, and the pilot is sleeping (taken a sleeping pill perhaps and can’t be woken up), the copilot and the flight engineer are fighting in the cockpit and do not have time even to glance at the dashboard, the passengers (the people) are screaming, and only the airhostesses are making the rules which are all absurd.

    You are right. Absurdity is the norm now.


  10. Rhan
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 14:52:02



    Both the above comments amuse me. The moment you leave BN, you become a man of conscience? Anwar bring along his Katak culture into PR, and his supporters presume this is justice!? This people never realise that another devil is in the making, and their role is actually one of this devil collaborator.

    End justify mean right?


  11. peng
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 15:10:22

    We must not confuse the people’s vote with idolizing a certain candidate or party. Maybe I should speak for myself here. I vote for change, the much needed desperate change for our nation. The person or party I vote is actually a means to this end; to execute change! Therefore, Anwar or whoever who happens to be there at the right time and the right place will be voted in. But.. they must remember that if they do not deliver what they have promised, they can & will be voted out.
    All this fight and scheming to get into power is not good for our nation. Who will suffer in the end? It’s the rakyat. The more they flaunt or flex their muscles to get the number, the more they reveal their ‘dark’ side.
    Enough of the drama. Accept the consequences. Get down to real work and let the people decide in the next GE.


  12. A true Malaysian
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 16:06:59

    “Udang di sebalik batu” is the appropriate Malay idiom in describing the two PKR state assemblymen and one DAP assemblywoman.

    In this internet age, they cannot claim ignorance for no one contacting them because of having mc or ‘switching off’ mobile phones because too many phone calls coming in. By incommunico for just a few hours in itself is irresponsible, what more for a few days.

    To me, they have lost their creditability being people’s representatives. It is good in the long run that PR has to give up such personality and indeed is a blessing in disguise not just to PR, but to Malaysia as a whole.

    They should come out and bare all by telling the truth what were transpired and not giving excuses like being sick or lazy to answer phone calls.

    Anyway, it is a common perception that we cannot trust a politician and I hope PR can correct such perception in time to come.

    Hahaha, it is good that Dr. Hsu does not regards himself a politician out of the same reason? Still, I hope you are a politician to correct such perception of Malaysians.


  13. Justin Choo
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 17:21:37

    BN, “One for you, two for me.”

    Pakatan, “Game over. Let The Third Wave begin!”



  14. pohwatchdog
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 18:23:40

    Who started the game? It is time for the rakyat
    to look beyond the true colour of PR. Once you cross over, you don’t have to resign. If my side cross over, you have to resign from every position.
    Is it a fair game?


  15. petestop
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 19:14:00

    Funny when upto RM500mil was doled out by BN in the KT by election, nobody questioned whether it is a “fair game” ?

    Funny how Sabah state govt was hijacked by BN and ended up with the farce of a “musical chair” Chief Minister, and nobody question whether it is a “fair game” ?

    Like the Malay saying goes, “bagai meludah ke langit…”


  16. eugene
    Feb 02, 2009 @ 22:51:37

    ” Either you are with me, or you die ” & ” Live by the sword, die by the sword”

    Go read the above 2 articles by Raja Petra, I’m sure you will have a much clearer picture of what the hell is going in Perak & this country.


  17. Justin Choo
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 00:48:40


    Can’t get in M2day. Tried the alternate URL and the mirror site; also blocked.


  18. romerz
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 01:18:55

    Dear Mr Sleeping Dog,

    How old are you? Don’t tell me me you do not know how Pairin’s PBS administration was brought down by BN in 1994 through defections (of the corrupt kind)?

    So who started the game? And please don’t talk to me about fair game. If you are as scared and clueless about your political survival like the components’ leadership, then it is better for you to keep your mouth shut than to talk cock!

    Sickening and weak people we can understand and tolerate sometimes but to open your mouth and talk cock is repugnant!

    I know you are a dog and not a cat but eat more fish. Maybe your brain might develop more if you ate more fish.

    (sorry doc, couldn’t tahan when a mad dog barks!)


  19. klm
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 10:28:39

    Dr Hsu.

    Madness has hit BN. They are fiddling while the country suffers.

    Amongst the readers of you blog are many Gerakan members. 65% of you wanted Gerakan to get out of BN. Now is the time for you to do something. Shock the world. Shock Malaysia. Shock BN. Get Gerakan out of BN.

    There is nothing much Gerekan can do anymore in BN. The much vaunted BN Convention had been called off. Where the monthly BN council meeting? The only way Gerekan can put any idea into BN is by a press statement.

    Members of Gerakan, you have been cheated by your leaders. Be the first to change. Get back the party. Take it out of Gerakan. Then you can do something for yourself and your children. Make yourself proud.

    Act Now!


  20. Justin Choo
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 10:55:59

    Dr Hsu,

    I am inflicted with this sickness of standing at the back watching and listening, but with this urge of shouting out once in a while; and now I’m doing it again, cannot tahan again, just like Romerz, but I’m a non-drinker!!

    Dr Hsu do yourself a great favour to the nation. Stand up and be a true blue politician!!

    To cut short; I sokong klm 100%!!!


  21. A true Malaysian
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 12:21:23

    Dr. Hsu,

    Frankly, KTK the ‘Bodek King’ has no back bone to lead Gerakan out of BN. Could you see that?

    I can’t see any justification for your purpose being in Gerakan CC to convince your beloved party to pull out from BN. No chance and no way so long this ‘Bodek King’ is ‘King’ of Gerakan.

    By the way, I borrowed this word ‘Bodek’ from romerz. ‘Bodek’ is the rightful word to described KTK. I just added in ‘King’ to make KTK proud of himself.



  22. klm
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 14:41:48

    I think Koh Tsu Koon can still redeem himself. That is if he want to be remembered as a statesman.

    As Winston Churchill said : “A politician thinks about the next elections – the stateman thinks about the next generations.”

    Otherwise he will be remembered as a colourless, unaccomplished politician. A footnote in history.


  23. CYC
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 14:43:30

    I went back to my hometown for CNY and met some old friends for tea as usual. It happened that one of them are involved in politics. Sad to know that BN is still playing the old fashioned politics of fear mongering. Non UMNO BN component parties are still believing fear mongering works, more so if it relates to racial conflicts. Believe me, this man is a Gerakan leader.

    Dr. Hsu, what more could i say. You belongs to a bankrupt party be it politically or morally. By the way, can i expect some answer for my 9 questions to KTK posted through your blog sometime before CNY. O am i just dreaming!


  24. eugene
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 17:08:24

    “Frankly, KTK the ‘Bodek King’ has no back bone to lead Gerakan out of BN. Could you see that?”

    A True Malaysian,

    Is not easy for KTK to pull Gerakan out of BN. To the top leaders of Amno, whoever oppose them either dead, disappear or jail, that is if they can’t buy you. He can retire n nobody will bother but not pull out of BN.


  25. andyksyong
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 17:24:56

    Hi D Hsu,
    Currently, there is no legal impediment to elected wakil rakyat crossing over to a different political party. The question would be whether such frogs are morally permissible or not.
    Some people oppose defections simply because of the unspoken fear of losing power, or toppling the government. The worst are those who had in the past explicitly or implicitly supported previous crossovers when it suited them. However take note that there are also the good ones whereby one could argue on the ground of principle that political crossovers is justifiable ie beneficial to the people.
    As it has been often said if we allow such crossover, the frog’s mandate from the voters might become questionable. No one can say that the original mandate is definitely going to be reversed by the electorate if a crossover occurs and if a fresh mandate is immediately sought. So it is a question of the voter’s faith in the candidate or his party. However isn’t it the expectation of the rakyats that their wakil to put the interest of the nation before his party?
    The issue of morality can sometime difficult to justify, for instance, even killing can be morally justified if it is committed out of genuine self-defence. Anyway do not get me wrong for suggesting that political crossovers are morally justifiable. We shall take into account all the circumstance and weighing their consequences as compare with the consequence of the opposite act. At the end of the day it is the assessment of the value in its impact for the future of our country as we all hope for a better tomorrow. Salam berjuang!


  26. petestop
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 19:24:02

    People can come up with all sorts of excuses to rationalised their action.

    That is why we need the written laws and the judiciary.

    If that fails, then, please return the decision back to the people.

    This issue would be a test on the judiciary, as
    the EC seems to biased and have overstepped their jurisdiction by overruling the Speaker of a State Assembly.

    For one thing, it would be interesting to see if the so called newly Independent assemblymen can even get into the State Assembly, as the Speaker would disallow them.

    Meaning that there will forever be a 2 vacant state seats, until the next State election, as the two cannot participate in the State Assembly.


  27. A true Malaysian
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 19:55:11

    As I commented before, “Udang di sebalik batu” is aptly described for both PKR Perak Aduns.

    Now they can find justification to regard themselves as ‘independent’ Aduns, of course, with the help of Election Commission.

    The plot is really well designed by Umno to deviate rakyat’s attention to their own problems in their party with the run up to Mar 2009 party election.

    Umno may think that they have succeeded in their plot, but rakyat have seen the true colours of them.

    PKR, after all, is a young party that consists of many ex-Umno. These ex-Umno are not as ‘simple’ or ‘straight-forward’ as we would like to perceive. In the end, politician can never be trusted, remember?

    Perak has no other way but to go back to its people, i.e. to have a snap state general election, but again, will the Sultan consented to it? How about EC? Can EC be impartial in allowing for this snap GE?

    Worst case scenario is to hold on to the tenure of the state government until next GE which will see more turbulence. But, there is no much choices left, as I see it.

    Those in Umno and BN need to come back to their conscience to make the situation much clearer in Malaysia, Perak in particular, at least up to now.


  28. for nikki
    Feb 03, 2009 @ 23:47:25

    Well, these independent ADUNS won’t remain independent for very long. Once the charges are dropped, they will switch. Later on when the cheques are cleared, they will announce that this will be their last term serving the people because of deteriorating health etc etc. The script is played out again and as always we end up the losers. Bravo. Enjoy your new beemer, yacht, etc, etc.


  29. Rhan
    Feb 04, 2009 @ 09:20:32

    PR must do the right thing and the rakyat must be educated to exercise the right choice. The moment PR give an impression that they are no difference from BN by trying to play a so-called fair game, the voters might start to turn away. They may not vote BN but at the same time, might not have the similar enthusiasm to go all out to vote PR anymore in future. PR priority is to posture themselves as leaders that are clean, pride, responsible, adhere to the spirit of democracy and constitution that could bring them to a thorough victory in the next election. BUT instead, what we hear is all nonsense from the de facto leader and his blind supporters who know only blowing hot air by calling others dog or MCA member whenever a different view is presented. The blind supporters never sound their protest whenever hopping is in their favor, and everyday talk about pulling out from BN thinking that this would help to defect BN. What this blind supporters should know is PR gain their support from the rakyat and they should go back to their roots to bring down BN and not through the same BN tactic by telling us this is fair game! Fair or not fair PR did make a breakthrough in 308 and should place their trust on the rakyat wisdom, only the rakyat can defect BN.



  30. wassup
    Feb 04, 2009 @ 12:00:35

    All this drama is absurd. Imagine after a few clowns cross over, they get new state government. Then after, let’s say 1 month, another few cross over to the new opposition, again, Perakians get a new state government. And this sitcom repeat itself almost every other months. How?

    Stop party hopping!!!!!! Wait for next election for your ‘lesen-to-accept-rasuah’…..


  31. klm
    Feb 04, 2009 @ 12:14:10

    We can try the Thai solution. A military coup.
    Short of drastic actions, nothing can change the situation.

    We can start by eliminating permanently the subspecies of politicians. Just shoot all of them.

    If not a military coup, a people revolution. And do the same thing.

    Drastic situation requires drastic solution.


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  35. Atila
    Feb 10, 2009 @ 06:07:35

    Dr. Hsu

    Bee-End looks estalishing itself in Perak.
    sob sob sob…..


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