Let the people decide, Perak!

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I have written last month before the change of government that Perak should go back to the people. ( read this).

I am still of the same opinion, and I have voiced out this opinion in meetings with members and leaders, that we must stand firm and urge both sides to come to a common understandings to go back to the people.

In the light of the curent development, I think the case for going to the people is even stronger.

59 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Peter Yew
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 13:01:54

    Dr Hsu,

    This impasse must be untangled quickly and only the Sultan of Perak can do it. By allowing both sides to fight one another through the legal process it will long drawn and ugly. Perakians are hungry to go to the poll to exert their authority in this fiasco.

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  2. KB
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 13:22:21

    Will Gerakan stand by and watch while BN tramples on democracy in Perak and takes the country down the road to a police state? Where is the “conscience of BN” that Gerakan profess itself to be? By doing nothing, Gerakan is aiding and abetting Umno.

    Is there nobody in Gerakan who can galvanize the members to call an EGM to take the party out of BN? Don’t expect your leaders to do anything, they are comfortable sucking up to Umno. Koh Tsu Koon loves to be photographed with Umno leaders.

    Will Dr. Hsu take up the challenge or will he wait another 100 years for the party to change?

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  3. Dr Hsu
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 13:47:42

    When I posted this post, i knew that people will question about Gerakan’s stand.

    I have been consistently saying within the party, even in top level meetings, that we must support the notion that there should be a new state wide election, that the people should be the one to decide who should govern them.

    If I have failed to convince them, it is not my lack of trying. I have been consistent in my stand, unfortunately, mine is only a lonely voice inside …

    I have been consistent in my stand in this blog as well as what i voiced out in top level meetings and other private meetings between leaders…

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  4. Richard Loh
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 13:58:38

    Dr. Hsu,

    I appreciate and understand where you stand.

    Most people, if I am not mistaken are asking that Gerakan as well as mca and other component parties to leave bn and become independent. This way, only than can umno really be frightened of what they have been doing.

    As long as umno is in power with the help of the component parties, they will continue with what they are doing, irrespective of whether they are right or wrong.

    From what you had expressed I see that Gerakan as a whole still thinks it is in their best interest to cling on to umno for their own selfish gain or truely for the rakyat sake.

    NO EYE SEE really, we are really doomed!

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  5. Ooi
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 14:10:13

    Dr. Hsu

    If you know that you are going to be slaughtered, would you still go ahead to let the people to decid? This is exactly what the BN is trying to avoid and doing all the desperate act of cinching to power.

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  6. klm
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 14:25:12

    You know what. Gerakan leaders already have their bottom and head swapped. What can you expect?

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  7. KB
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 14:31:19

    The ironic truth is that Umno is not strong enough politically to face the elections alone. It needs the help of MCA, MIC, Gerakan and its other allies in East Malaysia to rule Malaysia.

    Gerakan’s withdrawal from BN will send shock waves through the coalition. It can make a difference.

    Dr. Hsu, I’m really disappointed with your response. You seem to be saying, “I’ve voiced out, what else can I do?” This is no better than Koh Tsu Koon issuing one of his powerless statements calling on the govt to do this and that like the recent call to re-negotiate with toll companies. Their real intended audience is the Gerakan members, not the govt.

    D. Hsu, I think you can do more than that. Election to the CWC has tamed your fire and mellowed your response. Is this the sort of half-baked democracy yo want you children to grow up in?

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  8. Dr Hsu
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 15:16:38

    KB,
    as late as 2 days ago, in a workshop meeting of many members, i am still asking gerakan to pull out from BN.

    What i am saying above is that for this Perak issue, my stand has not be taken by the majority of leadership and i am only one vote in 30 plus..By the way, I am not in the CWC, i am only a CC member. ONly those selected by the president gets into the CWC which is the top managment committee.

    Yes, i can quit and protest, but i have not reached my time frame and the time is not ripe yet…. NOt when I am starting to see some results among the grassroots.

    ANd as i have promised in one of the earlier posts, I am not going into another argument about why not do it now.. I have explained a hundred times here, just look back ..

    But in the grassroots,i can start to sense a strong frustration and many not seeing my points before is now starting to see my arguments.

    In a slow but sure manner, grassroots are getting more and more fedup, and many of my views in this blog gets copied and sent via emails among them even without my knowledge. A good sign but it needs more time to be built into a torrent..

    In an interview with an online paper last month, i have called openly for an EGM to let members decide for the course of the party… But the interview, for some reasons, have not come out and my friend the monk who arranged it had told me that it would come out after DPM took over…

    I am doing my best within my time constrain, and as I said before, I am not a full time person in politics, otherwise i would have travelled up ad down to galvanise support… I am not a politician, just a voluntary social political worker… Who is trying in an amatuer way to bring a party out of a coalition…

    And i have only limited resources… my own resources..

    If i go now, it will be playing into proUMNO members’ gameplan, and earlier in one of the posts, A Branch chairman or what is heis name, commented that there is a plot within certain leaders to get rid of me by attacking me in this blog and pressing me to leave as soon as possible,, and this is certainly true, especially from those who do not want Gerakan to leave BN…. I know who the person behind this and i will not admit defeat and go before my timeframe is up…I am a stubborn person and will fight until all hope is lost…But sometimes we need stubbornness to galvanise our fighting spirits..

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  9. klm
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 15:29:21

    Dr Hsu. Thanks for the explanation. I love to insult gerakan’s members. And it looks like I can still continue to do so.

    cheers

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  10. petestop
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 15:44:00

    Doc Hsu,

    Indeed, if there is any change to happen, it has to come from within.

    I admire your courage and tenacity to hang on in Gerakan. If only Gerakan has more members like you, it will still be relevant to us.

    However, I’m sure that Chang Ko Youn is laughing all the way to the bank getting a free rid to power on UMNO’s coattail, even though he lost in last election.

    If this is not a suppression of democracy and the will of the people, and if Gerakan members are still blind to this, blinded by the need to getting scraps of power from UMNO, I don’t know what else to make them see.

    Gerakan has been much admired in the past as it represents the grassroots, the People’s wish. Now it is only representing its leader’s wish.

    Throughout all these PR has never strayed from the law, YB Nga Kor Ming have also reiterated that the final call is still up to the Sultan, as he has the discretion to allow the dissolution of the State Assembly.

    Rest assure PR will continue to resist within the boundaries of law to this theft of a legitimate state government by BeEnders.

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  11. petestop
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 15:46:35

    Whatever the outcome, all this bodes well for the bonds within the Pakatan Rakyat.

    What better way to test a relationship, when you are subjected to distress together.

    Our of the fire, a Tree of Freedom, Democracy and People’s Power is born.

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  12. zztop
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 15:52:14

    The best solution is to go back to the rakyat. It is the only solution.

    However, BN knows that they cannot win the Perak state if there is another election because the Perakians will never ever support them.

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  13. Low Keing Hooi
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 16:58:51

    Obviously if we do not give you a chance to ‘try’ your ambition in the CC, you will not believe that the Gerakan indeed cannot be rescued.

    Remind you what the brainless Huan Cheng Guan has said and reported in the paper yesterday? His mind has been filled with government position that he even said if KSK do not want government position, there are plenty of Gerakian want it..

    What hope will we get from this bunch of monkeys being ‘elected’ to the high post in Gerakan?

    不到黄河心不死?

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  14. klm
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 17:05:20

    Wow. This Huan guy is position and power crazy. He is a loser. Kick him in his scrotum.

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  15. petestop
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 17:19:30

    Some snippets from Malaysiakini:

    http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/99471

    …As the eager crowd listened to the speeches, little did they know that the group of unruly men who tried to block Mohd Nizar earlier had converged in a nearby coffeeshop.

    Suddenly, at about 11am, one of the men at the coffeeshop pelted a projectile into the crowd, causing some members of the crowd to rush to the scene in an attempt to apprehend the assailant.

    A short melee ensued. Bottles were broken, presumably to be used as weapons, while one of the unruly men tried to hit Pakatan supporters with a chair.

    One of the unruly men was also heard screaming: “Ini tanah Melayu!”

    Even though hundreds of police personnel were nearby, guarding the state secretariat building, none came to stop the scene from turning ugly….

    This is the kind of BeEnd robber who robbed us Perakians of our state govt, with the police condoning the acts of these hooligans.

    How will Gerakan, MCA and MIC answer to these utterance from the obviously UMNO thugs ??

    You guys are all “pendatang” and “squatters” on this land ??

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  16. klm
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 17:41:56

    This sound like a may 13 story told by raja petra. This guy is probably planted by UMNO to start a racial clash. Bodoh. This 2009. not 1969.

    How will Gerakan, MCA and MIC answer to these utterance from the obviously UMNO thugs ??

    Let the people of Penang and Perak know. See where MCA, Gerakan and MIC can hide their faces.

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  17. Low Keing Hooi
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 17:49:41

    Not only the May 13 story has the similar tactic if you remember the chaos happened lately during the opening of the access road at Bandar Mahkota Cheras for the avoidance of toll plaza.

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  18. klm
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 18:46:51

    So people of Gerakan. Are you not ashamed of your leaders?

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  19. KongKor
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 19:32:25

    Dr Hsu,

    You said “If I have failed to convince them, it is not my lack of trying. I have been consistent in my stand, unfortunately, mine is only a lonely voice inside …”

    Now you know that you have failed miserably within Gerakan, where is your dignity and integrity in a party where no one care two hoods about what you say! If yours is a lonely voice inside, why are you still in the same political party? Your time and effort could probably be best used in doing some NGO work that is good for the people instead of being a “toothless tiger”.

    Talk is cheap, Doc.

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  20. looes74
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 19:45:10

    Hsu,
    You are no Lee Siew Choh of Gerakan. It’s extremely futile. Like it or not, you would be seen together with the present Gerakan leadership. By the Greakan is as good as dead, just leave

    People,
    It’s time to sue the Sultan. I don’t really care. Derhaka, Derhaka lah!

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  21. petestop
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 21:00:48

    Not only BeEnd steals the state govt, they also steals the judgement against the Perak Speaker.

    “Closed door” hearing, with defence lawyer not even appointed or communicating with the Perak Speaker, which expectedly resulted in judgement against the Perak Speaker

    Is this what the former Chief Justice call “natural justice” ?

    All branches of Executive, Legislature and Judiciary are raped by UMNO.

    And Gerakan, MCA and MIC are participants to this CRIME against the Rakyat and the Institutions of this country !!

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  22. Kenny Gan
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 21:06:17

    Dr. Hsu,

    The only way to spend your time usefully in Gerakan is to work to take Gerakan out of BN. If as you said, many in the grassroot are frustrated, there is an opportunity here to galvanize them into a positive movement. They are looking for leadership.

    Don’t underrate your own power and resources. One man can make a difference. You can make a difference.

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  23. Malaysian Salt
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:00:39

    Everything that has happened shows the real ugly side of BN trying to hold on to power. Even the lawyers representing Zambry removed and crumpled one of the document submitted for the high court hearing. Gerakan should really take a stand on issues on justice and the way things are being done. I would agree that Gerakan should consider pulling out of the coalition, a Gerakan which pride itself of having educated members should not be associated with groups which would do whatever with the power vested upon them. Anyway nor should Gerakan join the Pakatan. That’s my opinion. Give us a third voice.

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  24. looes74
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:06:04

    Kenny Gan,
    The only person that effectively threaten a party in the politics of Singapore & Malaysia is Lee Siew Choh of Barisan Sosialis. Not even Lim Chong Eu or Tan Chee Koon. Remember they pull out bring along with their kakis. Nothing happen to MCA or Gerakan.
    Even then with Lee Siew Choh dramatic flight, taking with him considerable branch members, PAP still survives

    Hsu,
    You have the strength of what Lee Siew Choh has against LKY. Ask yourself this question!

    Hsu,
    Are you Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg? Have you watched Valkyrie?

    Regards………

    P.S : I am still subcribing to Malaysian Malaysia espoused by LKY in the 60s. The only thing that can save Malaysia

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  25. monsterball
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:12:29

    The smartness of PR politicians listening to the voices of the people….bravely…confronting and exposing ..how wrong the Sultan of Perak was….now throwing back…all the legalities for the Sultan to judge again.
    Trace the events. PR keep applying their lawful rights.
    UMNO keep sending hooligans to irritate and cause trouble.
    Police keep tilting one side.
    Doc understands UMNO is unfair and unjust.
    Does he understand…one more support for Gerakan who is supporting UMNO…is one more too many…to evil doers..for no reasons at all??

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  26. Dr Hsu
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:40:04

    I have promised not to go into this again but just briefly i willanswer.

    So far, everything i spoke in meetings have not be heeded.. But gerakan memebrs should be able to sense the change in the views of many memebrs who now believe that there is a role outside.

    I have been fighting the war in my own way, thru the only mean that i know best, ie thru emails and internet.. even some veterans helped by redirecting emails to those that did not receive.

    You should know that there are people, like one agent provocaetuer, who is consistent asking me to go out of Gerakan . their argument that I am a Gerakan memebr that is why I support BN. Which is nonsense. If I support BN, will I ask Gerakan to go out of BN?… So the logical thing is , this person is under order to twist and influence ohters to press me to go out of Gerakan, and by doing so, lessen the chance of Gerakan leaving BN , which may lead to many others smaller multiracial parties to follow suit.

    Now , he is again trying to start a war…And i suspect, there are other agents who are his collaegues and cybertroopers doing the same thing..

    And some , i have deteced , use different names to comment but same IP address. Do u know that if you use the same wireless modem, u will have the same ip addresses? And these are organised attacks..

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  27. Dr Hsu
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:41:53

    Pls do not start a war … i will have to delete if someone is attacking another one…

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  28. monsterball
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:56:25

    With due respect to Doc…I I think..no one is starting a war or is any agent of some sort.
    I hope he does not keep hinting I am somebody’s agent.
    All bloggers know…I am not…except Doc.
    If he is not hinting at me…then I apologize again.
    I put out my views and immediately he is upset….why so?

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  29. Dr Hsu
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 22:58:09

    kongkor, from the way you have commented , you are a Gerakan member no doubt about it…. Is the mouth piece behind u? Read my comment above which i answer KB..

    Now if i quit Gerakan, what will be the impact? Nothing, the most, about 10 members from my own division wil probably leave… Just like when Tan K Kwong left, only a handful follow..I heard he has difficulty forming a branch of his own in PKR …

    But if Gerakan is to withdraw, the impact will be much greater….

    So another few months to go ….

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  30. monsterball
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 23:13:15

    I declare and swear upon my parent’s grave…I belong to no party nor is an agent to anyone.
    I support 100% change of government….and admire Lim Kit Siang…Anwar Ibrahim…RPK…and few brave souls….sacrificing their lives for a better tomorrow.
    I have risked my life to walk the talks…experienced tear gas and water cannons…treated like an animal..walk vigils…..which I am so proud to have contributed to the 12th election…making Malaysia a more democratic country …never experienced before.
    Before tghat…I risked my life…protecting few Chinese houses in Gombak being burnt by Malays…during May 13th 1969 incident.
    I am sick and tired to be branded so cheaply and easily…according to the whims and fancies from whoever wishes to brand me.
    All my life…I fear no one…and carry no balls to succeed in life.
    I write and speak from my heart….and if the language is not good enough for some….too bad.
    Talk is cheap….action speaks louder than words….ALWAYS!!
    So act…and talk less.

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  31. cilipadi
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 23:31:56

    If you are, you are. If you are not, you are not.

    Don’t imitate Na–b. No one believe him up to now, someone.

    I have given you up, someone.

    someone makan cili, someone rasa SIOK pedas

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  32. monsterball
    Mar 03, 2009 @ 23:44:51

    If you are what you are not….than what you doing is a mission impossible….just for your daily dose of medicine you need to stop eating hot stuffs.
    Get cured….or forever you will have an unbalanced mind….dreaming you are what you are not.

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  33. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 00:38:19

    Haaa, haaaa,

    Cilipadi, you’re cilipadi

    Monsterball, you’re monsterball

    monk

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  34. chinseng
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 00:54:34

    Dr. Hsu,

    A solid/good plan and sequence of actions is needed to achieve your mission ( if this is what you want to do ) of taking Gerakan out of BN.

    Please do not take Tan K Kwong as an example.

    Why not start to tell us your plan of actions ( the roadmap ) and see how many people will follow and support you. If the support is good, it can be galvanised into a force to be rekon with….

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  35. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 01:25:07

    Dr Hsu,

    The time will come, it will come….for you to leave.

    The reason why nobody heed your words….I think is that most are waiting for “something” to happen.

    And “it” will happen….

    monk

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  36. jamesloh18
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 01:38:14

    last few weeks i been glued to the perak happening.it was a sort of k ,eeping myself busy distarcting myself over my over stressed work,it giggles it was good de stress …but the fact still remind,,somehow something is going to explode.these umno youth are not gangsters as per se,they are tools by some people with interest. i have a funny feeling it matter of time this country is going to be ruled by the barrel of the gun,@ then we all be shitiing our pants.

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  37. romerz
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 01:40:20

    cilipadi,

    You are getting arrogant! Whilst I may agree with what you say most times, you are making yourself diminish in the eyes of ordinary readers of this blog.

    I have my differences with monsterball but they are seldom personal and never about his beliefs and actions.

    It is about his manners and attitude and don’t you forget that!

    You are now starting to be personal and I have a problem with that!

    What my country needs most is for people to speak out and respect opposing views without being personal. Much as monsterball rubs me the wrong way, I will stand by him if you continue your arrogance!

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  38. romerz
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 01:44:28

    jamesloh18,

    Umno Youth not gangsters? Ever heard of Pekida?

    http://romerz.blogspot.com/2009/03/only-doing-their-jobs.html

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  39. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 08:48:03

    romerz,

    Thanks for your advice.

    I said I am here because of someone. My ‘someone’ is not this someone who ran amok in this forum. Who is who is personal here?

    What is the point of ‘swearing’? We are what we are and we are not we are not. If all criminal or crook ‘swear’, what for to have trials in courts?

    By the way, just imagine if Malaysian courts lost their integrity and independence, then ‘swearing’ maybe the next best alternative. Only you Malaysians know what type of courts you have. I, being an outsider, better not to comment.

    Some people just couldn’t change, just like your Umno and its goons. Perhaps is because of BTN that make them think ‘they are the best, Malaysia is theirs, no one can question them, etc, etc’.

    To this someone, I can see some improvement in you. Your mouth smell nicer, lesser four letter words but ‘anger & hatred’ are still your killing points.

    You are a mole, you are. You are not a mole, you are not. What for swearing? But, if indeed you are, then the best place to fit is hee’s backside. But, if you are not, then keep the mole with yourself, don’t show it to others.

    Action speaks louder and words. Do it after this.

    siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas

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  40. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 10:09:08

    I agree that Dr Hsu should not leave Gerakan. While he is there, he is the reminder of conscience to the pirates in Gerakan. I believe these idiots (to put it mildly, though I am tempted to use more choice words) will tread more carefully.

    Carry on. Dr. Hsu

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  41. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 10:22:51

    April and May is a crucial time, I guess. Wait the new emperor takes his throne. many are wondering whether the hard or soft line the new emperor will take.

    Either the Santa Claus or the Gestapo way.

    Either winning hearts or taking the hard line to suppress and eliminate.

    monk

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  42. ahoo
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 10:53:17

    Dr Hsu,

    Just stick on to your own principle. Be a thorn in the cc flesh and stand up for what is right and just on each and every occassion. It takes no strength at all to just quit BUT BUT it takes real guts and persistency to stay the course.

    It is often said,… that it takes 99% of efforts to keep and nuture a customer but take only 1% effort to destroy all that was accomplished. We have had witnessed and known for ages what umno stands for all these years. What we have to do is to support all rational malays to stand up and take back this land together with others from those pirates and migrants from our neighbouring countries who wanted to be more malay’s than the local malays. We cannot allow this bunch of no brainers to run wild and cause untold damage to this beloved Malaysia.

    Maybe for a start, Dr should encourage all of us to email all the CWC of gerakan and floods their blogsite with our messages that reflect what we have in mind. Let us fight them with words and all within the confine of law so as not to run foul of the law even though we al know that they are many sets of law in Malaysia. One for them, them and them whereas the other set of law for anyone against them !!!

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  43. petestop
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 11:20:07

    I agree with Doc Hsu’s line of logic.

    He is the conscience within the “conscience” of BN.

    Hopefully Gerakan will just be an independent conscience, then it would be more meaningful to the Rakyat.

    Gerakan do have good and well trained people,
    like their attack on the current Tourism exco for Penang, there could be some truth in it.

    However, Gerakan fails in the BIG MATTER, and the BIG MATTER are of future and of national importance of our and our offsprings continuing being 1st class citizens of Malaysian.

    We do not want to see our institutions, the Judiciary, the Legislature, the Monarchy, the Police, the Election Commision, the Anti-Corruption Commission all raped by the Executive just to maintain their minority (at least in Perak) power over the state.

    If Gerakan CANNOT make the BIG DECISIONs, please make way for others who can.

    Gerakan has but subjugated themselves to UMNO by their own greed of power and position.

    Get back to your roots and fight for your grassroots !!

    Doc Hsu could be the next LCE and indeed what you write (blog) here can and already have powerful effects amongst the grassroots.

    Better than your leaders, like KTK, who can only issues press statements stating the obvious that my 2 year old daughter also knows how to do. But to this day, we never know what is the principles behind the man called KTK, except that he supports BeEnd and is subservient to UMNO.

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  44. Dr Hsu
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 11:48:27

    chinseng
    I am not out to grab power and so i have no action plan. But even if i have it would be stupid/naive for me to reveal here.

    My simple plan is to voice out and influence the mindsets of ordinary members , so that slowly but surely a certain culture forms; and be an example myself of a member who dares to challenge the existing thinking of the top leadership, and cannot be bought with posistions and other offers.

    A person who voices out the heretic views . It can be lonely in the CC and sometimes, on many occasions, I have even told my fellow friends that supported me that i feel like just giving up and fade away, for that would be the easy way to do.

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  45. monsterball
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 12:41:47

    Thanks Romerz! Chilpadi is arrogant…sarcastic ..boastful….love to show how smart he is..expert in twisting ..denying…and then find a reason to attack.
    He portray himself as teacher ..adviser..judge and insult anyone..he feels comfortable to do so.
    He is a foreigner..the ONLY commentator who proclaims he has a mission…and mission accomplished…few times..yet not accomplished…..sighting me as his target..so happy I ran away……now denying…because I keep coming back…his mission can never be accomplished.
    He said he has given me up…yet keep attacking me.
    And he will twist and say..:that…the
    someone is not me….trying to confuse readers.
    Why have he got a mission against me?
    Easy..he wants to prove to this blog……he is able to chase me out..hoping to be hero worshiped…..for God only know…what is the mission for.

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  46. Nick
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 14:55:21

    Hey guys, there are no other blogs that can conduct such high quality discourse in politics 101. I am faithful to this site and admire Dr. Hsu’s intellect. I have read romerz, monsterball, petestop, cilipadi, klm, etc , etc and I respect everyone of you. I observe most of us are consistent. If anyone of us have a hidden agenda, it will show up somehow somewhere in our writings. Keep on writing guys but stay away from personal attacks. We have too many mess in Perak now so stay focus on that topic.

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  47. M&M
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 16:07:35

    UNLESS PR CAN PROVE THEIR ALLEGATIONS, WHAT THEY DID AND DOING NOW CANNOT BE ACCEPTED IN OUR COUNTRY. NO MAN IS ABOVE THE LAW!

    AT FIRST DEFY THE SULTAN, NOW CAN IGNORE THE COURT’S ORDER, IS SINGH REALLY THE KING????

    HSU, STUDY THE PERAK CASE PROPERLY, DONT BE AFFECTED BY THE BLINDED READERS, IT IS NOT A MATTER OF HATING BN NOW BUT DOING THE RIGHT THING!!!

    PR AND BN ARE ALL THE SAME, SELFISH POLITICKING FOR POWER DISREGARDING THE PEOPLE’S INTEREST.

    DONT BE A LAUGHING STOCK BY SIMPLY ACCUSING 20 OR 50 MILLION OFFERS. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! IF WE ALLOW PEOPLE LIKE PR TO RULE THE COUNTRY, WE CAN THEN REALLY SAY GOODBYE MALAYSIA! ECONOMY WILL COLLAPSE! THEY CAN OPENLY DEFY THE SUPREME LAW AND FIGURE OF THE COUNTRY, WORST THAN COMMUNIST!

    SO PLEASE BE RATIONAL AND UNDERSTAND THE REAL WORLD OF POLITICS AND NOT MERE IDEOLOGY!

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  48. Nick
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 17:28:55

    M&M, I don’t understand your logic. Do you admit that money and big sums were use to entice the frogs to change parties? If so, then BN is corrupted. Secondly, do you admit that PR has the majority votes at the GE12 in Perak state? If so, why is BN trying to use the backdoor to hijack the state? Do you admit that the Speaker is within his rights to convene the emergency sitting? If so, how come the State secretariat blocked the sitting? Do youa admit that BN will never want a by-elections in Perak? If so, who is cheating who? All Dr. Hsu and others are trying to do is state the obvious “go back to the Rakyat” and see who should run the state? QED.

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  49. sosong
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 18:32:38

    Whoever dare not face the rakyat for a snap election is a coward, even my 14 years old nephew know this simply logic.

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  50. sosong
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 18:47:13

    Imagine, a company with 59 employees, then one day, a few employees who had connection with police ask the police to bar 28 employees from entering the premise of the company, (during office hours), while these 28 employees were still legitimate employees, they had neither resigned or under any police investigation or break any laws !!!
    Another new records for Bolehland!!

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  51. looes74
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 18:54:57

    People,
    If you have watched Valkyrie and understood the historical events behind the story, you would have know what I mean.
    I am not sure what Dr Hsu is doing. Heck, just as I am not sure what Karpal is doing sometimes. But guys, we must have an objective.
    In that show, One prominient politicians in the circle says rhetorically that

    “We should go to see Hitler and ask him to give up His power for the sake of Germany”

    Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg replied

    You take away Hitler, then what?

    Hsu,
    I respect your decision and principle. My question is “Then What?” Do examine the objectives and justifying the means of acheving
    I hope that you know what are doing. You see Pakatan Rakyat Perak are doing the right things in convening the assembly.
    I am sure Tsunamis are coming and this time, like Red Sea, it swallow up the Egyptians and the Pharoch.
    I sincere hope that Hsu would stand on the right side when the turn of tides comes.

    People,
    BN is waiting to be implode. Every component parties are eyeing each other, seeing who will make the vital move. Tsu Koon is calculating now. Gosh, I have been speaking too much…….

    Claus Schenk Graf von Stauffenberg said

    I don’t wanna just make a point. It must succeed! Voila, Valkyrie!

    Guys,
    Any Stauffenberg around here?

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  52. chinseng
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 19:16:22

    Dear Dr. Hsu,

    I believe your “Simple Plan” will work….

    Voice out and voice out often — people will hear it

    Speak out and speak out continuouesly — people will listen, hopefully…

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  53. M&M
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 21:14:04

    Nick,

    I meant the PR reps were big liars simply accusing of the unreasonable offers wthout basis. The PKR reps will jump to joy even if 200K is offered, cut the crap of ideals to change.
    It is clear that BN is the one have the extra 3 independent support, thus PR cant take the defeat suddenly, sore loser thus want to take back by hook or by crook. The Speaker is obviously biased against BN, what motion when they insist Nizar is still the MB. Umno corrupt is unquestionable. In a nutshell what i am saying is most politicians are the same whether they are fr BN or PR – selfish and dirty.
    Thailand changed their PM so many times without election, Bush became President even he lost the popularity vote, Gloria became the PM the same way too. Previously Terengganu & Perlis dec by the Sultan was not questioned by Sultan or even the initial stage at Perak when Pas is the minority. Look at the larger picture and be fair instead of blaming everything on BN just bcos of their darkside instead of the good ones. There is never a perfect govt.

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  54. M&M
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 21:17:14

    In addition, who started the backdoor game first? Anwar did it way back in 90s when he bot 2 Aduns fr PBS in Sabah, not to mention his lies of 16/9.

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  55. MM
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 21:37:06

    o ya dr, I must say that there r times I intentionally used diff name to comment so that ppl will not be blinded by yr struggle & just to be creative. Thus not non grata.

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  56. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 23:00:52

    Hahaha monk,

    I only noticed now, you also start with M also. I am sure you are not disgusting, just disgusted. I can understand why you are ‘disgusted’ as so many people don’t give morality a damn like you and me.

    Before I realized, another one start with M. Not one M, but MM some more.

    This M is like a watchdog name poh, who apparently a minority who justify the act of their political pirates in Perak. Hope they can be rehabilitated after sometime in this forum.

    One thing good about this MM or M&M is that he (or she?) agreed “Umno corrupt is unquestionable”. At least something.

    But his (or her?) statement “The Speaker is obviously biased against BN” is something quite normal. Just look around, Speaker of your Parliament is obviously biased against PR also? Sort of a tooth for a tooth, no?

    This MM should carry a mirror along wherever he or she goes, just in case he or she goes hay wire.

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  57. monsterball
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 12:38:37

    One who have morals does not keep lying…denying…apologizing when been told…and start all over again.
    One who is a foreigner trying to teach and insult Malaysians and not commenting….like a cultured guest…does not deserve respect.
    One who keep thinking his hot stuffs will make Malaysians suffer is a real idiot!
    Malaysians love hot soup…hot plate food…hot love…hot gambling…many more..and especially ..hot curry stuffs…with chilipadi.
    Our hot weather is the main reasons…. those that cannot take hot stuffs come by the thousands….just to get sun tan.
    Naturally…..our hot places like disco…body rub down…run top/bottom.all over….why Monk and monsterball “M” keep getting lesser and lesser…..but like Monk said…he will still be an “M’…so do I.
    UMNO is out-dated.
    One…you know who…keep applying out-dated fear tonic….dressed up with hot stuffs…feeding….hoping…that will be his weapon of distruption….chasing anyone way….applying to fearless Malaysians. What a jerk! What a fool.

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  58. Dr Hsu
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 12:50:14

    DEAR READERS,

    DONT START A WAR IN THIS BLOG…. NO ATTACKING AT EACH OTHER PLS…..

    Pls cooperate, as I do not want to waste time deleting attacking comments…. Time which can be put to better use!!!!

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  59. vic71bc
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 13:30:50

    I cry for you—Malaysi_aa!!

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