Instill the culture of the ‘white sheep”

 I remember when i was a small kid, my dad bought a puppy for me, not one of the pure breeds you see nowadays, but a mongrel dog with yellow fur.

 I grew up with that dog, which was named  “Happy”. We were not rich, my parents were mere teachers in those days, and teachers in those days did not get any side income from tuittion classes, simply because at that time, tuition was a luxury that few parents could afford.. So we could only feed the dog with left over food ( we  made sure that there was enough for the dog) , but there was a strong bond between us. Through looking after the dog, we were taught the importance of empathy, compassion and kindness. We learned that even an animal has feelings, even an animal  could feel pain.

That is why I have allowed my children to keep pets, specifically dogs. By learning to care for the animals, they learn the importance of responsibility, empathy and be compassionate to fellow animals  and human beings .

What prompted me to write all these is because of the sketches down here:

post-mortem-findingsdiagram from Malaysiakini

This is a sketch , post mortem sketch probably, of the body of a detainee who died in a lock up. ..The shaded parts were briuses (the blue black things that we would get if we had a hard knock). 

My younger kid posted this question to me: How could anyone cause so much of agony and anguish to another fellow human being?  He correctly said that even with a quarter of such injuries, a person would be moaning in great pain and asking for mercy.. Who in this world could still continue beating his person and inflicting so much injuries?

When I was a medical officer in a district hospital in the late seventies, we had to do post mortems because there were so few pathologists who were all based in big centres.  So I had some experience in doing post mortems

In a post mortems, internal findings can be disputed because it is not visible to our eyes, but external injuries cannot be faked.. Bruises cannot be faked after death, because after a person dies, blood is no more flowing and after-death marks will be very different from those inflicted before death.

From the diagram alone, the exteranl injuries itself would indicate injuries that would certainly lead to profuse bleedings and muscle injuries, and when so much of muscles were injured,  the myoglobin that was released from  injured muscles would clog up the kidneys and cause death.  And when kidneys fail, fluids can accumulate in the lungs..

 I hope this case will be thoroughly investigated and all those responsible should be punished. Even a supposed criminal cannot be treated like this, and under the law, everyone is innocent until proven guilty.

In any organisation, there are white sheeps and there are black sheeps. What is important is to instill the culture of the white sheep and do away with the culture of the black sheep. Once a culture takes hold, whether white or black, it would not be easy to  change an entrenched culture. That is why those in the civil society is harping on IPCMC, which will help the force to gain back its glory , and let the culture of white sheep triumph over that of the black sheep.

I also think that as parents, we must realise that education is not just about sending children to school , but more importantly, we must educate our children at home too, with emphasis  on compassion, empathy, sympathy, and other virtues of life . If evryone can do that, if every family can do that, then there would be muc less crime and much less violence in the world. There would be much less black sheep in this world.

(some will again say i am naive and talking nonsense, but a thousand mile journey starts with a single step, and there must be someone to push for idealism).


37 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 11:39:04

    Dr Hsu. It is not as easy as you said. Your argument applies to middle class urban Malaysian. There is a small segment of dislocated population,, where there is family and culture breakdown. This small segment is a major cause of the violent crimes.

    I am sending you a pdf file for your reading pleasure.


  2. Dr Hsu
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 12:09:53

    i understand. I am trying to study more on urban poverty.

    In my 2003 report and proposal to DBKL , I mentioned about the single room flats in KL, (there are still a lot in San Peng area). Imagine a single room flat for a family and the children got no place to go except turn to crime? I had asked in that report to demolish the single room flat which were rented out by DBKL, and built in place 2 or 3 rooms flats and let the old tenants get the priority to move back to these once built..In the mean time, the old tenants can be housed in long houses to wait for the conversion of these flats.

    Imagine, one twin tower could have footed for all these low cost flats for all the urban poor in KL.

    there are certain social responsibilities of the government to look after the urban poor.

    That report, written by myself, is available at the mast head under the page “Kuala Lumpur towards a world class city”.


  3. Dr Hsu
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 12:11:50

    That report, by the way, when submitted to the hearing committee in 2003, was priased by the then Datuk Bandar as a report as good as their own 2020 plan. He was probably joking, for after the hearing, i did not hear anything from them again…

    Klm, thanks for sending me your file, i will certainly go thru it and learn from it.


  4. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 12:44:14

    Dr. Hsu,

    That is and was why I insisted on ‘morality’ in my past comments. If we ourselves do not emphasize on ‘morality’, who else will?

    Everything starts within ourselves. If your leaders did not, as a subordinate, we must have the moral to voice up to them, just like what you are doing in Gerakan CC. Your statistics on you are the lone voice in CC shocked me. I don’t believe my eyes when I read this.

    We learned from history that many governments and monarchy diminished because their lacking in ‘morality’ where material wealth and power overshadowed or blinded them the important of morality. Very soon this history will be repeated in this Bodohland or Bolehland if Umno and BN are still ignorant and arrogant. They are digging their own graves.

    Don’t regard all these people as ‘untouchables’. Untouchables are just human, they also did mistakes. It is time now you guys wake up from sleep and stand-up against injustices of your political masters, so to gain back trusts of your people.

    Morality not important? Sigh!!!!


  5. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 13:16:01

    One of the biggest culprit for social dislocation is Samy Vellu and his cohorts in MIC. We are suffering from his abuses and neglects over the decades.


  6. Taikohtai
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 13:17:49

    What is most appalling is not that an individual can inflict untold harm on others but that his action appears to be condoned, as what is happening in Malaysia! Remember Karate Kid? Yes, TDM even said that DSAI’s injury was self-inflicted! With that type of tacit approval from the top, every cop would think that it is his duty to inflict as much physical harm as possible on any suspect.


  7. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 13:21:08

    cilipadi. Morality is for the middle class. When there is no roof over the head and no food on the table, morality is of lowest or non existent priority.

    Man will go to church when he has a house and his belly is full.


  8. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 13:25:55

    Dr Hsu.

    I remembered I posted some not so pleasant (but nor rude) remarks on some of the points raised in your article “Kuala Lumpur towards a world class city”. These were mainly on Gerakan.

    My Apology.


  9. Dr Hsu
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 13:52:01

    I thought your comments are quite valid.

    But there are certain good proposal inside what i wrote, like we must have certain objective indicators to gauze the progress of the city, more low and medium cost hosuing , the needs for cemeteries for all religions, and beautifications of these cementeries, clean industrial zones and so on….

    The need for more and better low cost housing for the poor is in fact very important, as children brought up in a single room flat have no space at all for themselves, and they have to loitor outside and inevitably becomes recruits of gangsters and so on..

    DBKL flats are rented out at a very affordable rate, actually nominal amounts, but the environments and the buildings itself can have lots of rooms for improvements.

    I also advocated free looping bus service in inner city, and improvement of linking the LRTs and feeder services, and reduce the traffic congestions thereby improving the quality of lives of the people.

    The needs for bringing back populations to inner city cores is important and we must have certain clean industries in the cities and affordable hosuing in inner city to make it more vibrants and cut down on travelling from outskirts of city..thereby cutting down the needs to travel from outside to KL and reduce traffic congestion again.

    There are many things that i touched on, but your comments are certainly valid.. One person’s brain can sometimes input so much only, and even though i got some inputs from certain professional town planners, it was mainly my ideas alone… And a single person can actually do so little..Though it was input as from KL Gerakan,( under Dr Tan Kee Kwong then), it was written solely by myself..but I used KL Gerakan ‘s name to have more impact/weightage on the hearing….


  10. Peter Yew
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 14:29:36

    Dr Hsu,

    “I hope this case will be thoroughly investigated and all those responsible should be punished.”

    1. I can almost guarantee you that this will be swept under the carpets. At most, the policemen involved will be transferred to desk jobs or other stations.

    2. Remember the nude squat incident exposed by YB Teresa Kok? What happened? I can bet (though I don’t gamble) that the same outcome will happen.

    I have lost all faith in our police. It has rotted all the way from the top and has forgotten its basic principle. To be an effective law enforcer you must enforce law from within. This I am truly sorry to say that whatever spring cleaning are just for show. You and I may not see the day when we can tell the police we are away on vacation and to trust them to keep an eye on our house.

    P/S yes, keeping pets help promote healthy moral values. I have a dog too.


  11. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 14:52:18

    The comments below as gathered from Malaysiakini are what I commented earlier “Don’t regard all these people as ‘untouchables’. Untouchables are just human, they also did mistakes. It is time now you guys wake up from sleep and stand-up against injustices of your political masters, so to gain back trusts of your people.”

    (editor: this is the link:

    From Malaysiakini:

    DS: This time, if the Sultan of Perak, continues to not heed the rakyat’s wishes and dissolve the state assembly, his reputation would be forever tarnished.

    Generations to come will remember him as a royalty who did not care about the welfare of his subjects.

    He will also be remembered as a sultan without the courage to walk his own talk and stand up for justice, democracy and the separation of powers.

    Maniam Sankar: I do hope the Sultan of Perak is witnessing the needless shame he has unleashed on Perak.

    Sultans are supposed to be above politics. When they do interfere, they must justify their actions to the people; not just to the deputy prime minister.

    Keeping his silence does not endear the sultan to the people nor does it provide clarity. I do hope he moves to resolve this before more mayhem happens.

    He should, after all, be the one most concerned. His subjects have spoken and they are very confused; now he must ask them for their verdict at the ballot box.

    John Johnson: We are on dangerous ground. Perak is in turmoil. Why is the royalty keeping mum? We know they are supposed to be above politics but it’s ridiculous to see the speaker being bullied.

    Why are there no snap elections? Why hasn’t the Sultan of Perak called for them? It is a simple solution but one stays mum? Why?


  12. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 14:53:42

    Dr Hsu,

    You’re not talking nonsense. There is “littel” education nowadays, I prefer to use the word, “schooled.”

    So many younger generations are “schooled” but not “educated.”

    That’s why there are so many white-collared crimes too. Even “smart schools” don’t necessarily educated children.

    You are absolutely right!



  13. Nick
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 15:05:37

    Let’s look at the raw material entering the police force. Most of the guys who are inside have no where else to go. They are failures in schools. I have a batch mate who is now a datuk and a OCPD. But in class he was nobody. I actually have a colleague who was in the police force for 10 years. I told me he became corrupted when he was inside. He took up drugs and learnt all the corrupted deals in the small police station. The chiefs sitting inside are all corrupt to their ears. Nah, there is no hope. Poor kugan is just another statistics.


  14. petestop
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 15:50:09

    How lah you want to change DBKL, when they are not elected nor accountable to the KL folks ?

    Even their UMNO-owned Putra World Trade Centre basement carpark was flooded.

    I don’t know why Malaysians are still so blind as to continue accept these kind of incompetence.


  15. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 16:03:18


    KL has the world most sophisticated and expensive ‘longkang’ in the world, and still flood.

    Act of God? Marvelous.

    This is one example for their mentality of to look nice and grand, outsider’s views are not important, LKY’s concept of Malaysian Malaysia was out-of-date.

    More and more bones will come out from their closets, their dogs are gonna to have great time.

    siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas


  16. Dr Hsu
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 16:16:43

    petestop,actually in KL, We all started the “give us back the second vote campaign.( to have elected mayor as well as elected city council) I was the one proposing this… Only thing this thing died after Tan Kee Kwong left as state chariman, and the secretary did not pursue this..I however, have no say now….


  17. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 16:29:25

    cilipad. I love your tag line – most expensive longkang in the world. 3B RM project down the longkang. Put a banner on the SMART Highway.


  18. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 16:53:50


    Bodohland is full of crony projects..that’s is why it is called “smart”.

    It refers to the crony and not the people….crony laughing all the way to the bank.

    The flood project don’t refer to water, it refers to flooding with cash.

    We are going down with the smart tunnel….things have got worse…just look in the news….it’s depressing.

    But in a day, something is going to ex-the-plode with another news… the throne gets nearer.

    Watch, cilipadi, the show is going to start.



  19. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 17:42:31


    It will be a case of “so near and yet so far”?

    I just guessing only. Ghost is still floating around if one did not die in peace. This is what I learned from a Malay folklore.

    RPK always say, 99.99% rumors will become real in this Bodohland.

    The saying of “Behind a successful man, there is a woman”. Wait and see how true.

    woman makan cili, man rasa pedas?


  20. petestop
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 18:13:01

    Doc Hsu,

    Malaysia would have been very different if most have acted according to their conscience and rational thinking like you.

    We have potential to be much much more… 😦

    This few days bad news from up north…

    Spansion goes Chapter 11 few days ago, at least 35% staff will be laid off.

    Today, Intel Kulim started laying off people,

    A few MNCs are shaky, Avago and Agilent, included.

    Given such economic outlook, our govt still have time to steal a state govt, and deploy all their minions in the Judiciary, Police, EC, and MACC to undermine a legitimately elected Perak govt.

    Tengku Razaleigh is the only UMNO guy who makes sense:


  21. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 21:34:41

    The depraved oligarchy elites are playing a dangerous game. Hence, the world has terrorists because those in authority does not play by the rules and forced those outside to also play the lawless game.

    Dr M in 1993 gave a speech at the Concorde Hotel, seminar on the role and influence of religions in society, organised by IKIM and the Goethe Institute. He said (quote): “The issue at hand is to find out the ways and means of how a nation can producea people or society that has its core the deep sense of religious consciousness, committed to the highest standards of ethical and moral values and yet is most progressive, industrious, dynamic and dedicated towards advancement and progress.

    (Quote):”But, the stark truth is that all the material wealth that we have accumulated can be completely wiped out if we do not have the morally right set of values among the people who manage them.

    (Quote): “We have repeatedly seen this happening at the individual and family level; we have also read in history about the fall of empires for invariably the same reason. And we are seeing today the destruction of many civilizations.” (Unquote)

    Yes, it is the beginning of the fall of AMNO.

    cilipadi, what say you? Dr M talking about “morals”…..ha, haaaaaa.



  22. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 22:09:58

    When BN curi makan (steal a state govt, it cannot even do it competently). See MI on -Perak muddles further with Ridwan’s eligibility to judge. Seemed the judge is also illegal. His contract expired last Saturday and not renewed. He is still working. We now have a pirated judge. Hope he don’t get paid with tax payers money. Malaysia Boleh. 😦


  23. klm
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 22:26:39

    A thought came to my mind while I was driving home this evening. How is Gerakan going to financed the next election? In the past, Gerakan had some minister(s) and a state (Penang). So it had opportunity to engineered some beak wetting parties. ( wetting the beak is a phrase by Sicilian mafia for protection money). The last election had probably drawn down the ill gotten stash.

    Now, it has no ministers or state , there is no more beak wetting opportunities. No wonder, they are so desperate to be ministers.


  24. Disgusted
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 22:30:39

    Doesn’t make sense. State and Parliament are legislature bodies that make laws. And here, going to the courts to make ruling on them.

    Really screwed up government.

    Politics in this country is organized hatred, that’s unity.

    There is a Chinese saying to describe UMNO:

    “hu zuo fei wei”

    Acting widely in defiance of moral law and public opinion and:

    “hu e bu quan”

    simply means “icorrigible”

    cillipadi, where is your cilli for AMNO?



  25. cilipadi
    Mar 04, 2009 @ 22:40:52


    My friend used to tell me that he observed this Bodohland has a few disgusting characters whose names start with M, both in real and virtual, who are impossible to rehabilitate. This type of people never give morality a damn, and yet can talk about moral in many occasions. Maybe these people never look themselves in the mirror for long long time until they forgot how they look like.

    I would suggest they bring a mirror along wherever they go, just like your mom Rosie, so that they can see how they look like before giving talks or speeches.

    I am not sure how many whose names start with letter M fall under this category. Maybe you can assist me by going through your data base, monk.

    Dr. M? Who? Disgusting?

    Those names or nicknames start with M, look at yourselves. Are you in this category? I hope my friend is wrong with his observation.

    M makan cili, M rasa pedas


  26. klm
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 00:53:19

    Talking about the incompetent thief, here is another one. In thestar – Perak fiasco: Police made mistakes, says Syed Hamid. Mistake, my foot.

    It was deliberate. Now the illegality is coming back to haunt them. The minister now admit the police conducted an illegal act that is criminal. The police and BN supporters are guilty of section 124 of the Penal Code:

    Assaulting Member of Parliament, etc., with intent to compel or restrain the exercise of any lawful power

    124. Whoever, with the intention of inducing or compelling or
    attempting to induce or compel a member of Parliament or of any
    Legislative Assembly or of any State Executive Council to exercise
    or refrain from exercising in any manner the lawful powers of such
    member, assaults or wrongfully restrains, or attempts wrongfully
    to restrain, or overawes by means of criminal force, or the show
    of criminal force, or attempts so to overawe, such member shall
    be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to
    seven years, and shall also be liable to fine.


  27. monsterball
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 06:28:08

    I noticed many people starting with M…are millionaires.
    M…money seems to fall into their hands.
    Monk and yours trully…Monsterball… are M too……..hahahahahaha
    3M is better…..”Make More Money”…from being a ….”Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing Co”.
    However….one who have not been trained to eat hot stuffs..should not talk about hot stuffs. Do not make a fool of himself!! To Malaysians… stuffs….piece of cake..siok la…… sex..hahahahahaha


  28. monsterball
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 06:56:16

    Now that’s over and back to the post….yes….from humble and poor families…so many parents slogged ..saved to give heir children .better lives.
    From rich family….children seems to feel money falls from heaven..grew up…relaxed and no need to work hard.
    Poor families produced smart and intelligent children. This is so…because realizations…from daily sufferings….hungers…makes better humans.
    Rich children do not suffer. Faculty of realization…all locked up in brain. They start late to realized things…and only….when they are all are grown up and be independent…..thus far behind in the rat race to succeed.
    However…so many rich families have children with great ambitions for achieving a degree of some sort. That group…is healthier and seems to live longer.
    What was put out by Doc on the death of a detainee in jail….so much were written and the details given by Doc…adds more and educating readers for a clearer view …how that poor chap may have died.
    I think….almost all Malaysians know….he died unnaturally.
    If an ex IGP ..can blindfold Anwar and walloped him…to being half dead…why be so surprised…of a nobody’s death in jail.
    We read and read many more unfair and unjust …deeds..incidents…all done….with no regards to human rights nor obligations to be professionals.
    In short……..Malaysia is proven to be ruled by laws of the jungle….encouraged by UMNO and bribed by UMNO…to buy anyone.
    UMNO members are crazy drunk for stolen money……more and more.
    It’s like a drug addict.
    UMNO have reached a stage….incorrigible.
    The only plus sign…they fear People’s Power…..more and more….like all crooks do….to their bosses….feeling guilty….but keep denying….to save themselves.


  29. Nick
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 08:42:04

    Lucky my name starts with ‘N’. He he he.


  30. klm
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 09:50:44

    For your reading pleasure


    ● A predictable and non-discriminatory regulatory environment and an absence of undue administrative impediments to business more generally.
    ● A stable macroeconomic environment, including access to engaging in international trade.
    ● Sufficient and accessible resources, including the presence of relevant infrastructure and human capital.
    ● Safeguarding public sector transparency,
    including an impartial system of courts and law
    ● Ensuring that rules and their implementation rest on the principle of nondiscrimination
    between foreign and domestic enterprises and are in accordance with international law.
    ● Providing the right of free transfers related to an investment and protecting
    against arbitrary expropriation.
    ● Putting in place adequate frameworks for a healthy competitive environment in the domestic business sector.
    ● Removing obstacles to international trade.
    ● Redress those aspects of the tax system that constitute barriers to FDI.

    ● Ensuring that public spending is adequate and relevant.


  31. klm
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 09:55:33

    Reading the above.

    1. There is no wonder NEP is in the FTAs. (Point 1) 2. The current fiasco demonstrated non transparency and a biased system of courts and law enforcement.

    Dont think of anymore FDIs. BN is beggaring the citizens.


  32. Disgusted
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 10:32:58


    In politics, Perak is also within the definition of anarchy.

    One thing stands very clear in Perak. The people are still peaceful there. It is the politicians basically stabbing each other. Now we know it is “politicians” all along who divide the people. All these years BN trumpeting its role in “forging” a united Malaysia is a myth. Crudely put, it’s plain bullshit.

    The real culprit has always been “U’ know.

    I still think the worse prime monster is the current outgoing sleepy fellow. Allowing all these to happen under his nose.

    And the sleepy fellow recruiting a home jaga who said his machai in Perak made a mistake. Then Syed Hamid and the IGP should resign for not knowing the state constitution.

    Cilipadi, I also kena your cilipadi. No problem, I take it everyday, sometimes 3 times a day. Good for brain sauna. No worries. I won’t change my “M” to “N”. N means I have to use it to stand for Nun.

    These “M” (Mad-cows in the government) know morals, just that they don’t give it a shit…as they are in power now with wealth too.

    ….but just maybe, some retired long after (from power) in their last breath lying in their death beds do repent (for fear of death). By that time, that’s too late to stop their misfortune and morbid past.

    It also makes me wonder why spent millions building religious worship places when they don’t even practice during their politiking or poly-tick career.

    > Karmic sub-consciousness ( flashing pictures of all his morbid activities during his lifetime) takes over when a person is dying. The dying person with failing physical senses cannot control his thoughts at the moment of death. The person has then to face the moment of truth: dying alone.

    Some politicians don’t even go through this when they die in accidents.

    Sorry, Cilipadi, Never mind, I should not give judgemental discourses here. But these are the truth of life, affecting everybody, not just monstrous politicians.

    I will keep my “M”…..ha…haaa…..



  33. klm
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 11:08:22

    “Absence or non-recognition of authority and order in any given sphere.


  34. cilipadi
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 12:20:32


    I still like your M very much, yours is good M and not Ms which stand for Mamaktir, Monstrous, Money (ill gotten), Musa (the gangster head), Mad-cows in the government & blogosphere, Monkey, Monyet, Mokriz, Mokzni and so on.

    Before I forget, Malaysia also M. For better fengshui, maybe should change the M to S, and become Salaysia, like Singapore, Switzerland where we can see so much better politically and economically. Haha, not bad a name after all, Salaysia.

    What you preached here in fact, very true and I have the same understanding with you. It is good for those disgusting personnel (with M especially) read what you wrote over here and learn what they have not learned.

    Impressive structures with shape like Taj Mahal are useless if they don’t even know this simple fact. If they Gahmen bother to compile the statistics of building and maintenance costs of these Taj Mahal scattered all over Malaysia, and compare with the decadence in morality, the figures will be some sort of ‘Atomic bomb’.

    Haha, at least my cilipadi do good to you, but good or bad, cilipadi will always be in someone’s mind when he or she eat chilly, whether like or dislike.

    Last but not least, Morality starts with M. M is still not bad, after all. Those names with M can be someone of high Moral and Morale after eating cilipadi, I hope.


  35. monsterball
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 13:30:32

    I love M& melts in your mouth…not on your hand.
    Whenever cornered….so nice…behaving like a good guest.
    But not or long…out comes…..???
    Siapa rasa monsterball tarok….rasa bola sakit.


  36. monsterball
    Mar 05, 2009 @ 13:35:21

    hahahahahaha….Focusing on “M”….got caught…now say..not bad.
    Siapa rasa monsterball tarok….rasa bola sakit.
    Do you like my slogan…monk??
    Nick..with N….sooooo lucky….one step away from M….trouble!!!!


    Oct 01, 2009 @ 11:51:14



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