Falling roof and pothole syndrome

It was only yesterday that I was talking about the ‘manhole ‘ syndrome , when I refered to the blunder made by the apex university of the country.

It seems that the culture of mediocrity which I referred to yesterday is fast becoming the culture of ‘rots’. Just look at the headlines of these 2 news today:

1.  roof of year-old stadium collapses

T'ganu stadium

The collapse of Jaya Supermarket in PJ is bad enough, but the collapse of this new stadium is not excusable…. What shoddy work for the amount of money paid… Poor materials , poor workmanship, poor supervision, any  or all of the above??? or to quote Samy’s favourite phrase: Act of God?

The moral of the story is: be careful when you step into a new public building, and be prepared to run the race of your life if you see any cracks appearing before you…

2. Hairdresser killed in pothole mishap

death due to pothole

From The Star:

A 36-year-old hairdresser was killed when she fell off a motorcycle which hit a pothole.

Lee Nyam Kan was riding pillion on a motorcycle ridden by her husband when the rear tyre punctured as it went over the pothole, causing both of them to lose balance and fall.

This type of death should be preventable if the authority is more vigilant.. This pothole syndrome is just like the manhole syndrome which I have talked about…

My condolence to the deceased family,, but….What a waste of life!!

60 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. khensthoth
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 12:15:37

    They should work out whose jurisdiction the pothole is under, and sue the relevant authority for negligence.

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  2. a gerakan member
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 12:30:29

    so, how many KPI points is KTK going to deduct from the ministry in charge?

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  3. a gerakan member
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 12:40:15

    Dr Hsu,
    do you think Najib is going to attend the PPP agm?

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  4. Dr Hsu
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 12:52:54

    a gerakan memebr
    I really don t know.

    But if he attends, Murugiah will have probelms. If he does not attend, then Kayveas days may be numbered.

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  5. Richard Loh
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 13:08:28

    I just cannot think what will the government do or act if the roof collapse during a football match or any sport event being held. Thanks GOD that it collapse in the early morning hour when it was not in used.

    The government at this moment is still not serious and no immediate actions are taken to stop all these rots, what they are doing now is still politicking in my mind, trying to used Chin Peng subject to garner malay support. TV1 TV2, TV3 and utusan are producing all kind of racist matters.

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  6. batu giant
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 14:03:10

    Malaysia Boleh must be deleted from everyone’s mind as from now…what so boleh about malaysia? More like Malaysia Bullshit!!!

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  7. ahoo
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 14:04:31

    Before the dust for the PKFZ can settle, now we have the stadium roof falling down. I am not surprise at all since we had experienced so many of such stories lately. Even the newly built hospital has problems, duta courts, putrajaya customs dept etc. The list is never ending, why ?

    All these are the by-products of pure corruption and cronism. For most of such projects are given to people who are connected politically. Most warlords will be given such projects when they know almost nothing on building them. They will take a cut and pass it on to another crony and the list expanded until the poor contractor who took the actual job, survive by cutting cost. End result is a building that is not built to specification and waiting for disaster to happen.

    Only way to end all such problems are the open tender system with competence committee who have integrity and accountability. We cannot compromise on it as cutting corners will end up paying more to rebuild it. End losers are the tax payers who are already scrapping the bottom of the bowl in such a time as now.

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  8. a gerakan member
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 14:05:43

    Dr Hsu,
    some thing interesting found at The Edge website.

    It seems that Huan Cheng Guan may go to PKR based on the comments from PKR Penang chief.

    http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/political-news/15570-huan-waiting-for-the-right-time.html

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  9. A true Malaysian
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 14:16:37

    What else can we do? We have said enough, criticize enough, yet we are being accused of not giving face to them, ungrateful, anti-establishment, no praise and so on.

    What should we do next? It seems they turn on deaf ears or are they blind?

    Sickening, sickening & sickening.

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  10. wassup
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 16:39:25

    This pothole will be nicely covered up in a few hours time.

    ‘1 Pothole, 1 Life’

    yay……

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  11. A true Malaysian
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 17:17:27

    My personal view is that PKR should not accept Huan irrespective of him being a close friend with Penang PKR Chief ……

    What kind of mentality of these politicians. Read below, they are very much ‘opportunist’.

    Asked if Huan was just another politician looking for an opportunity to jump ship due to Gerakan’s fragile situation, Zahrain said: “Which politician does not look for opportunities? He is welcome to join us anytime but he must subscribe to our ideals, party struggles and principles.

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  12. petestop
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 17:32:15

    Indeed, I feel PKR is gathering too many “rejects” in order to quite grow its ranks.

    This has but resulted in so many problems with PKR reps in the Pakatan alliance.

    These unstable “rejects” does not have strong ideology or principle, but rather from too diverse and of suspect interest in joining PKR.

    Anwar should really be careful, and should set up a committee to vet such admission, instead of “direct negotiation” and decision making by himself.

    Otherwise, PKR will but degenerate into another UMNO.

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  13. Meng
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 17:48:38

    stadium collapses ..finding NFA

    Good thing they never build the crooked bridge.

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  14. annoyed
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 17:50:48

    Zahrain said: “Which politician does not look for opportunities?

    That is the reason why Mansor is Penang CM1. Very good, Guan Eng.

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  15. Kenny Gan
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 17:57:07

    The Huan ‘rebellion’ has been badly handled by Gerakan. From being unlikely to jump ship, he is now seriously considering joining PKR.

    Such speed to issue him a show cause letter speaks of political enemies within the party jumping on the opportunity to cast him out.

    As Huan has strong grassroot support this will surely weaken Gerakan. Although I have no love for Gerakan I must say that personal interests seem to supersede party interests now.

    Has Gerakan degenerated into a party of self-serving leaders who do not care about grassroot support and keeping capable leaders?

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  16. klm
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 20:22:26

    Huan said he would leave his fate in the party to the Gerakan central committee. Is the CC going to make the call and not the CWC? Looks like Huan dont trust the CWC.

    Looks like Huan and KTK’s clique are playing chicken. Who is going to blink first.

    And Kenny, since when did KTK and his clique ever bother with the grassroots.

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  17. pohwatchdog
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 20:45:23

    Culture of mediocre or complacency attitude among Malaysians had caused unnecessary wastage of fund. Do we really need to have more rot coming in? Lack of spirit of belonging and sense of materialisme have make us more self centre. One have to move on to improve the people lot. People are more aware on the transparency of governance. Strategy by PR in Penang make BN struggling to gather support.
    After all, noone is indispensable and life move on. Que sera sera, if anyone want to jump ship and with the current political scenario someone is testing the water.

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  18. klm
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 21:01:29

    Falling roof and pot hole syndrome is getting scary.
    Malaysiakini reported that the Terengganu Stadium did not received certification. Yet, these civil servants and the state government were willing to put people’s life at risk by holding events in the stadium. I dont know what kind of uncaring, dangerous people do we have in the civil service and state govt. This is premeditated murder on a grand scale

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  19. petestop
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 21:13:37

    Apparently the roof fell even over the section reserved for Royalty.

    Meaning that our YDP Agong was actually at risk when he ceremonially opened this stadium just few month ago.

    Not that any other person lives is less valuable than his Royal Highness.

    If this is not a MAJOR case of incompetency and lackasaidal attitude, then what is ?

    This coming after the long-drawn PKFZ fiasco.

    Do we want such government to carry on another 50 years ??

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  20. klm
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 21:29:00

    If the contract was given to the previous MB’s cronies. Maybe he did this on purpose? I mean the roof falling over the reserved section. Conspiracy theory.

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  21. Disgusted
    Jun 03, 2009 @ 23:34:14

    Ha, haaaa, haaa….more coming in the next few weeks….the show begins….

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  22. Justin Choo
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 00:59:23

    There is another white elephant stadium in Batu Kawan, Penang; awaiting ………

    Maybe should invite BN people with KTK to sit on the top rung of the stadium to watch the match-pass for the coming Malaysia Day celebrations.

    What else are coming? Huan?? joining PKR?? OH NOOOOO!!!!

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  23. romerz
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 01:33:17

    Dr Hsu,

    If and when your time comes to say enough to your party, let me remind you about the advice you gave me when I 1st told you that I’ve had enough of Gerakan.

    You had asked me to consider DAP and I”ve had no regrets since. I’m not yet a member of DAP but at least I feel comfortable amongst people who shares the same visions and have the ‘gonads’ to ‘walk the talk’.

    Sorry if I’m being nasty here! The reality is UMNO cannot continue to put forward it’s racists agenda on its own. It needs legitimacy provided by it’s component partners.

    Whilst I’m angry with all the shenanigans of UMNO, I’m more angry with those who would lend it legitimacy with disregard of a better possible Malaysia!

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  24. Dr Hsu
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 09:43:30

    romerz,
    Many of the pKR people are losers from UMNO. The kangdao mentality is very strong there, just like this Zahrain who had famously said that which politician does not look for opportunity.

    Mind you, this is the state chief. I dread to think what will happen if he is given a government position…

    You have mixed with lots of Gerakan members. I am sure you will agree that many of Gerakan grassroots are sincere people and not out for kangdao. There are black sheeps of course.

    It is a pity that we can’t influence the party out of BN, otherwise I can assure you Gerakan can rise again in 10 years time.. As it is, I think the party is going to face a bleak future in the next GE…

    DAP has similar ideology as Gerakan, and has a bunch of very dedicated grassroots.. Gerakan in 69, the party won Penang with only 300 core cadets.DAP is quite similar, but they have of course much more members than that. That is why my advice to you then, to give Gerakan first thought, and if you reject it, then go to DAP..

    But if i decide to go later, I will just concentrate on writings and probably would not join any more parties…

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  25. a gerakan member
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 11:01:04

    Dr Hsu,
    both NST and Star today highlighted that Huan is going to crossover to PKR.
    He seems to get all the media attention that he wanted. That’s more bargaining power.

    Do you think party will expel him?

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  26. Dr Hsu
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 11:42:00

    a gerakan member,
    I really do not know what happened during the CWC meeting. CC has yet to meet to discuss this issue…

    I will reserve my opinion until then..

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  27. a gerakan member
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 11:48:47

    Dr Hsu, I think CC must be briefed on this matter before taking any action.

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  28. A true Malaysian
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 12:01:33

    I think the same way as Dr. Hsu. Apart from this PKR Penang Chief, many are with such mentality in PKR and PKR better do something to get rid of such mentality among its members. By inviting this Huan to join will do no good for PKR and PR.

    Inviting Huan in is only for Zahrain personal interest in consolidating his position in the party as Huan has said 1,000 Gerakaniers will cross over with him.

    Good leaders in PKR, you guys should do something serious to negate such negative force within your party. Rakyat can see with their own eyes. PKR frogs have caused havoc to PR in Perak which in a way caused Nizar of PAS (ie not even from PKR) and your colleagues from DAP in such messy and difficult situation. Not forget also the people in Perak.

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  29. Atila
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 12:59:39

    Zahrain is ex-umno carrying into PKR umno’s culture 100%.

    What has he done significant being MP BBaru?
    Any?

    DSAI is in the midst of housekeeping such culture from PKR tactfully, if DSAI did not do such, surely that other Exco was announced TKM1 long ago.

    When Zahrain got his Perhubungan Negeri title, what has been doing with that title cum power?
    Ask Zahrain who the wanita negeri timbalan he terminated after two hour closed door meeting at bayan baru with his geng (wanita from ex-umno also there) without the said wanita having the chance to defend herself? Poor Dr. Joyce.

    Dr. Joyce is vocal, capable and with direct asses to DSAI. Shes seen a threat. Why? Becoz the culture of UMNO is women must obey man, no such thing direct asses to boss. In UMNO functions you see wanita willingly wanting to serve men drinks and food. Culture or bodek?

    This Satuday, I will be joining Dr. Joyce for a seminar organised by state govt. Joyce, the only few in PKR i came to know who do not practise partisan politics towards me.

    What a waste if Dr. Joyce hopes to DAP.
    PKR is still strongly partisan politics.

    I bet if the other Exco became TKM1, Zahrain would not even dare say this quote from annoyed “Zahrain said: “Which politician does not look for opportunities”.

    Ask Zahrain was he not oppurtunist in January 2009 why he poked nose into our kampung afairs and hold a dialogue when its not his territory? Then he insisted to hold another meeting to “settle” things that one PKR Exco
    cant settle.

    After we told him that we want to inform DSAI, he suddenly got fever and silenced until today.

    Some top PKR people in Penang are really frustrated that Mansor made TKM1 now.
    Just too bad when DSAI know these people’s
    personal interest and do not deliver to KADUN until today like my kampunng our ADUN, avoiding us in the pretext of “BUSY”.

    Zahrain, supposedly Perhubungan Negeri must have humanitarian heart and compassionate to PKR colleagues. When Fairus had to face all the bad things that he did not do (MACC cant charge him until today…what happen eh?), what support did Zahrain gave Fairus? Not even emotional.

    He did not bother Fairus’s welfare, who cares Fairus wife was on the verge of giving birth.
    This is UMNO’s way.

    Its only DSAI giving assurance Fairus will looked after. Now, do we need a Perhubungan negeri quality like Zahrain?

    All Zahrain know was making press statements even before MACC got findings, play God.
    We were disappointed.

    We the normal rakyat went to Fairus house to visit him console him in the hope he would not hop party, when you are down, lots of things can go into the mind.

    Do you think so easy for HCG to enter PKR DAP now?

    HCG better establish his own party with those “rejects” in PKR. What do you think?

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  30. Atila
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 13:21:20

    DrHsu

    The stadium collapsed saddens me becoz its publics money and worst if any casualties take place.

    Since you published the stadium, I also recall and want to share with you my 3-year working experience working with a Main-Con awarded the contract for a govt project in Penang.

    During the project, many walls collapsed with the scalfolding and to me its hazard to construction workers nearby, waste of money, cuts company profits (our bonus) and waste time.

    Luckily no deaths from walls collapsed.

    Why?
    Becoz Main-Con construction supervisors are not experience during concreting and their bosses are not there during concreting to supervise the job. They dont vibe according to procedure although conrete mixture was right but imagine all the batu fall down leaving the cement at the top.

    Even if the walls are up, you have honey combs her and there which was commented by the govt consultants as poor workmanship and got to spend money and time to do rework.

    This is only one aspect i share here, the companies mostly are no experience but yet can undertake such jobs.

    Why all this can happen in Malaysia?
    Corruption.

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  31. a gerakan member
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 13:28:46

    Dr Hsu,
    in today’s Chinese Newspaper, Guan Ming daily, Huan Cheng Guan says that a lot of people from the party grassroot and leader ask him not to leave the party.
    Is this true?

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  32. klm
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 14:41:38

    Atila

    Why are all these things happening in Malaysia? Yes, it starts with corruption. Here is a quick view of project corruption.

    1. Project cost are typically at competitive price level. Submitted price cannot be too far out else it is hard to justify the award.

    2. 20-30% of the project is typical payoff figure.

    3. The actual budget available now is 60-70% of submitted price, assuming a 10% profit margin and it could be less. The contractor must play the variation order game to make money.

    4. So how to construct the building properly at a budget that is less than actual cost.

    – lower quality material
    – reduce safety margin
    – finishing in area where people can see. other area no finishing
    – low cost poorly trained labour
    – reduced supervision
    – CF without inspection to pass poor construction
    – political pressure to fend off safety and quality inspection

    So that is how building collapse.

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  33. Engineer
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 15:17:29

    Dr. Hsu,

    I have just recently chanced on your blog. It is good to know that there are still politicians in the mould of Dr. Tan Chee Khoon (Mr. Opposition and one of the founder members of Gerakan) around. He was our family doctor when we were living at Batu Road in the 50’s and all my relatives look up to him for political guidance.

    Nowadays, things are very different – with the NEP and “Ketuanan Melayu”. When I started my career in the early 70’s, there were very few Bumiputra Engineers and to encourage partnerships with the Bumis, the government gave preference to Firms with 30% Bumi participation. I thought it was a very good idea as it would encourage racial integration. In the 80’s the percentage went to 51% and in the early 2000’s, only Firms with 100% Bumi ownership are eligible for projects worth RM30 million and below. I was dead against that as the the Bumis will say, “The other races will be a liability to us”, so the whole concept of racial integration is defeated. I believe that there is no written circular on this but I brought this up at a forum attended by about 500 engineers at the JKR HQ about 2 years ago. This forum was chaired by a representative from the Board of Engineers and you could hear a pin drop when I spoke. For a few moments after I spoke no one said a word until the Chairman, (I know him personally) politely said that he noted my comments, but it was not the topic of discussion at that forum.

    At the same forum, a former Director-General of the DID complained that very often the Consulting Engineers appointed on their behalf by the Government does not have the expertise to do the work they were engaged for, therefore, the DID had to guide them.

    I have always wondered how many cases of this structural failures can be attributed to mismatching of projects and Consulting Engineers. It would be interesting to find out!

    Coming to the collapse of the stadium roof and the former Jaya Supermarket building (which was awaiting demolition), it is never good to speculate even if one is technically competent, because there could be so many reasons for the failures. Let the Investigation Panels come up with their technical reports and after that, those who are competent may have their say.

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  34. Taikohtai
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 16:06:06

    Can’t help noticing that the hairdresser’s death comes second to other issues. Looks like most Malaysians feel quite helpless when higher authorities are involved. Looks like individuals are left to fence for themselves as if it was their fault should they meet with some road accident.

    In contrast, should such a mishap happens in Australia, anywhere in Australia mind you, the council responsible will be in deep sh*t. Not only will the higher authority offer apologies without being asked, but will also taken immediate remedial action to ensure that such accidents are not repeated. And steps would also be taken to ensure that the family is taken care of.

    Why can’t Malaysia be like that???

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  35. klm
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 16:10:37

    Ah! Engineer. You may be a good professional engineer. But politically, the investogation reports may be altered, suppressed, anything as long as the truth dont come out. How can those who are competent have their say? If I were to managed these issues, I would do exactly what I mentioned.

    The pressure must be piled up so that no one would dare do anything bad. Even if it is to speculate. The time is different. Things have gone too bad. I dont trust the Investigation Panels as their integrity is suspect.

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  36. graveyard
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 16:33:53

    Dear Dr. Hsu,

    Indeed it is very sad that you can’t influence Gerakan to be out of BN, otherwise Gerakan can rise again in a year time (no need 10 years, too long ) ..

    Staying put in BN and awaiting for BeEnd/amno to turn around it’s popularity and to regain Malaysian’s confident again is just a pure waste of time…

    yea…the party is going to face a bleak future in the next GE…

    we will wait and see…

    graveyard

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  37. Dr Hsu
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 16:42:22

    I do not know who are those who ask HCG to stay put. I didnt.

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  38. Dr Hsu
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 16:51:40

    Taikohtai,

    the worst thing is according to a police spokeman in the same report, the pothole was ‘less than 1 feet deep”, implying that she died because she did not wear her helmet properly.

    He is typical of Malaysian syndrome of putting the blame on the victim. If-you-are-raped-it-is-because-of -your-dress type of mentality.

    Even if it might be true that she did not wear her helmet properly, in the first place, the pothole should not be there.

    By the way, a pothole less than 1 feet deep can be 9-inches deep, and that is a hell of a deep pothole.

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  39. klm
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 17:01:00

    Dr. Hsu.

    Politician exaggerates. One or two supporters would be exaggerated to a lot of members in Gerakan. You should know.🙂

    I still dont think Huan will leave Gerakan. He had invested so much time there. Now is the time for him to go for the leadership.

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  40. klm
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 17:13:13

    The thing I cannot figure is what is the link between Huan and the king frog Tiong of PKFZ scandal fame.

    What about the speculation that this may an attempt to save Tiong from the PKFZ debacle?

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  41. a gerakan member
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 18:03:14

    Huan may fight for Gerakan President.
    watch out in 2 years time.

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  42. A true Malaysian
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 19:44:23

    I commented earlier that PKR Penang led by Zahrin will cause problem to Penang Pakatan government, and indeed, what witnessed such problem today where PKR councillors (except one) boycotted the swearing in of a civil servant as President of MPSP just now.

    Jeff Ooi is right for not to give in to these opportunists.

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/105831 .

    PKR cannot go far with such kind of attitude. I hope such people are only a minority in PKR, if not more problems later.

    My view is that, councilors should be manned by civilian, not politician, to avoid favourtism, cronyism and corruption.

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  43. klm
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 20:18:12

    a gerakan member. Now you realised his game plan.
    I think that is why the CWC acted so fast to sent him a show cause letter.

    Politicians are born with strong survival instinct. So the CWC members would have realise this threat very quickly. With UMNO behind him, and with Tiong’s money, he is in good position to do what you said.

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  44. Kenny Gan
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 22:49:30

    Huan probably did not intend to leave Gerakan as he had given the party 3 weeks to address his unhappiness. But it looks like others are jumping on the opportunity to force him out.

    But this is not without risks. It is well known that there is an undercurrent of discontent in Gerakan grassroot which can be tapped and Huan may be the one to tap it. His boast of taking with him thousands of members and close many branches may not be idle.

    If he has Umno behind him, the tables may be turned. I don’t know how but take PPP’s fight between Kayveas and Murugiah. Who wins depends on who has Umno’s support.

    Normally when dealing with a popular leader, discussion and accomodation is tried first. This seems to have been skipped with Huan.

    Gerakan is treading on dangerous grounds here. I sense great power behind Huan. He could either do a lot of damage to Gerakan or turn the tables on those against him.

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  45. Chauncey Gardener
    Jun 04, 2009 @ 23:19:06

    Regarding the stadium in Terengganu, the relevant parteis involved are

    Client/Owner: Terengganu State Government

    Architecture Firm: Senibahri Arkitek

    Principal Architect: Ar. Raja Kamarul Bahrin Shah

    Project Architect: Badrul Hisham

    Main Contractor (Main stadium): Bina Structur-Genggam Mercu-Emarcon JV

    Mechanical & Electrical Engineers (Main stadium): Public Works Department, Terengganu

    Civil & Structural Engineers (Main stadium): AZM Engineers- MA Consult-Protech Consultant consortium

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  46. Atila
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 02:14:50

    Huan President Gerakan?

    Oh NO.

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  47. klm
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 10:02:51

    On the roof collapsing, according to the architect, he gave many views to PWD, contractors etc.

    When the shit hit the ceiling, the blame game start.

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  48. klm
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 10:05:29

    The best solution is to line up all, guilty and innocent alike and “shoot” them. Do it once and it will not happen again. The modern sense of justice is not suitable to handle this kind of problem. The old fashion way is still the best.

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  49. A true Malaysian
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 12:34:30

    My gut feeling tell me Husam will be elected Deputy President of PAS.

    Whatever propaganda played in Utusan will back-fire on Umno themselves. Just watch further.

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  50. KBG
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 12:43:31

    klm, we should apply your solution to snatch thefts and solve the problem once and for all but it may not be suitable for the stadium collapse as it is usually a complex mix of interrelated factors with many parties sharing the blame in unequal proportion.

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  51. Meng
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 13:10:40

    KLM you right, the old fashion is the best…line them up.. the ah longs, snatch thieves, indon and many more.

    I hope the police maintain their presssure on the ah longs

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  52. A true Malaysian
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 14:36:05

    If Husam is elected Deputy President of PAS, this will mean there is a ‘significant shift’ in mindset of their members, who are 100% Muslim Malays. This will greatly influence ex-Umno PKR members on their direction to one of more inclusive Malaysian Malaysia concept.

    If Husam is not elected, then Malaysian politics toward multiracial ideology still have relatively long way to go, even if Pakatan Rakyat manage to take over Federal government in near future.

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  53. klm
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 14:38:34

    KBG. That is the whole point. We have to make an example. The fairest way is to punished everyone involved no matter what portion of blame. We just have to make a “sacrifice” once. It is cheaper this way. No one can complain about the unfairness of the punishment.

    In this way, no one would supply materials, labour and expertise if a project is unsafe. It will be self regulated.

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  54. cilipadi
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 16:42:13

    monk,

    All in all, I can see there is very thick sense of ‘insecurity’ among the Malays, even in PKR and PAS.

    I find it ‘weird’ of such ‘insecurity’ even though Malay form the majority ethnic group in Malaysia. Still, quite understandable since NEP / protectionist policies are there for so long. Strange, RPK is not like that.

    You agree, monk? Maybe you can write a thesis on this subject to earn a Dr. title (of course not medical doctor) for yourself.

    siapa makan cili, dia rasa pedas

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  55. klm
    Jun 05, 2009 @ 16:43:57

    Yes. Selangor Govt blanket blacklist all involved in the Jaya Supermarket demolition fiasco. That is the way. Guilty or not guilty – as long as you are involved you are punished. Next time be careful you associate with.

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  56. Atila
    Jun 06, 2009 @ 00:18:38

    klm, you are rite about your write up…
    our project walls collapsed due to “sendiri punya main-con stafs dont know how to do their work”.

    real contractors was not awarded…tiring…
    but the project was completed on time.
    again, with UMNO’s culture in GLCs…sick!!

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  57. Atila
    Jun 06, 2009 @ 00:26:10

    About four hours ago, my house mate 14year old daughter was snatched just 40feet from our
    house.

    She was also being kicked to fall down and luckily no head injuries, just bruises on the knees, elbows & fingers. Her neck was scratched becoz the thieves pulled hard her sling bag.

    Police report made. Photos taken.
    Lost IC and RM40.00

    Putting aside shes a chinese educated girl,
    its the trauma she went tru, took her two hours
    before she calmed down.

    Thieves snatch regardless of age and gender.

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  58. Disgusted
    Jun 06, 2009 @ 16:52:28

    Cilipadi,

    Waste of time writing a thesis. It’s simple. Like the conservationist knows best. Sheltering a wild animal while it is at a young tender age does the animal more harm. As experimented, the grown “domesticated or sheltered” animal when released back to the wild environment will “kill” it.

    Survival brings sufferings, but wisdom and knowledge. It equally applies to the human race.

    Children from poor families survive better than those who are born with a golden spoon in their mouth in a tough environment. I am talking those poor people who made it in life, successful and morally upright. Not bag snatchers and their mode of survival.

    If Buddha had continued to be a prince in his kingdom, I doubt he would be enlightened or discover the path to immortality. He suffered and experimented out of the comfort and luxuries of his father’s palace. Probably this logic explained the Malays’ mindset wanting protection and shelter. But many (majority) are proud to stand on their own feet and made it in life without the cripple stick given by the government. That also explain the inferior complex of those who will remain mentally handicapped wanting the NEP and the likes of discriminative policies.

    monk

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  60. lou
    Feb 12, 2012 @ 16:19:45

    Our final endeavor to explain fa’alupega was missing in, well, a accurate explanation, so we are looking at it all over again. This time, let’s get started with a definition.

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