‘MCA does not belong to anyone’

Deputy PM was quoted to say that “MCA” does not belong to OTK or CSL.

He is right.

 In fact, any association of 2 or more  members  should rightly belong to all its  members. 

The bigger is the association, the more members it will have, and the more differences of opinion will be there.

In a democracy, differences of opinion are solved by one man one vote system , and whoever gets more men or votes on his side will have his opinion prevailing over other opinions which get less votes. Simple like ABCs.

IN the case of MCA EGM,   OTK and CSL each got about 49% of votes of the members, and those who decided to kick BOTH out together had  less than 2% o votes.

So logic again dictates that since no man gets more than 50% of support, it will be best to go back to the members and let them decide.

ANy leadership that is democratic must be chosen from the grassroots and not among the top leaders themselves.

As I see it, there is only one way to go for MCA, and that is to seek the grassroots’ opinion again as to who should lead them..

26 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. klm
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 16:43:52

    The best way out is for OTK and CSL to come to a settlement.According to my source, this is happening now. Together, they have 98% percent of the votes. Then they can turn around and stamped on the ant with the 2%.

    There is a Swahili saying that goes: “When two elephants fight, the grass suffers; and, when the same two elephants make love, the grass also suffers.”

    The stupid ant did not learn this. Probably he never learned Swahili. 🙂

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  2. CYC
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 17:44:53

    There are rules for every game , just like a old Chinese song composed by Lo Da You entitled “Yo see qui ze” literally means Game’s rules. Yet how many of us (especially politicians) would ready to abide by the rules? Worst if those involved are highly qualified academically. They will use their knowledge (genuine or with evil motive) to twist into their advantage no matter what consequences there will be.

    Today we Malaysians are fortunate(?) to have the opportunities to witness the series of drama since 308 that unfold these shit characters of our leaders(?). KTK and CKY started the back door justification theory followed by their proteges LSP and LYP to become the DBKL advisory council member and special office to the Home minister. Then again, we have this MCA high drama that portrayed the “My interest shall supersede the community’s interest”. Hence, every one with vested started the shit throwing game ignoring the prevailing rules. Perhaps they are trying hard to demonstrate their own superior 5000 odd years of culture and wisdom.

    Conclusion, never trust the politicians and so called leaders. They are all after their own selfish interest and you will dumped once they got your votes. 1Malaysia corrupt together and we rakyats were f..cked knowingly or ignorantly. Ha ha , they are laughing at your back…. idiots.

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  3. Meng
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 18:08:30

    “”So logic again dictates””

    The trouble is both do not have logic. They are blinded by powers and see it as their right. The nosense is putting the chinese to shame.

    ——–

    How to calm them down ..wife trading will do the trick..CSL would be the most happy one to step aside.. Just clowing

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  4. disgusted
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 18:18:31

    Superman, Batman and Spiderman.

    Is MCA their grandfather’s company?

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  5. klm
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 18:27:40

    The good news is, for 2 ringgit a year, you can join in the fun in MCA. I think I am going to do that. If you cannot beat them, join them. I believe, I can carry out a plot better than these idiots. I can out snake any of them. I can out corrupt any of them. I can do all these bad things and probably get a datukship for it. Not a bad deal for 2 ringgit.

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  6. disgusted
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 19:04:50

    Ha, haaa Kim, you got it for life for ONLY RM100 lah!

    You can rule for 18 to 22 years, make a massive bundle, get free plane rides and also a chance to carry RM10 million in carton boxes.

    You can call some “big” brother in a state and get free land, yes maybe RM2 and sell for $$$$ millions to some stupid department or ministry.

    You can at the end of the day get an amulet title confer on you and you can leave this earth at age 101 years old with a big smile in your face.

    Ha,,, haaa, except our good friend called Cilipadi will ask you to eat more cilipadi…..heee, hee

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  7. Meng
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 20:56:54

    “”get free plane rides and also a chance to carry RM10 million in carton boxes.””

    Do you mean orgy on a bed made of 10 millions.

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  8. Dr Hsu
    Oct 21, 2009 @ 22:13:24

    Mou Gan Tai

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  9. Meng
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 00:00:01

    With the present tussle in MCA it has more or less created a slight vacuum of leadership for their grassroot supporters. They are in a vunerable situation and it is at this period, leaders in Gerakan and PR should take advantage to manipulate and provide some form of leadership to pull their supporters over.

    They should come out weekly with psychologically mooted statement regarding the present ,future direction of their party and confidence building for those mca lost chicks. I am sure by now they,the mca supporters are confused with the show or showdown going on.

    Take this opportunity to strategize to bury MCA for good.

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  10. romerz
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 02:14:16

    All the component parties believe that by participating in BN, they are withholding a more rampant and racist UMNO from going wild.

    They actually believe that they are the tempering force in BN which prevents UMNO from from embarking on a racialist crusade.

    That may have held true for the politics of the past but they forget present day demographics.

    75% of Malaysians are born after 1969. 60% of Malaysians live in urban areas. The average age of Malaysia is 22.

    UMNO’s age old threat of racial governance or racial violence does not equate well with our young ones.

    Frankly whatever cosmetic changes UMNO and their BN partners can potray will not change the course of events.

    Thse who subscribe to race politics will fall one day if it continues to talk about “power sahring” along racial lines. And it will not be me that caused it but rather the young urban Malaysians who will do it for us.

    Change is inevitable and of the BN lot, Gerakan has the best opportunity to save itself if it can recognize this and take huge, huge steps to distance itself from the race-based parties now!

    Doc, remember your “square peg in a round hole” posting?

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  11. Samson
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 11:02:25

    Party may belong to the people but if the people are bought by money to vote against the leaders, who shall we follow? It is no secret that the delegates themselves were bought with cash ranging from RM5k to 30k. More for c/committee…so now, is a party above all this or are we mere mortals?

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  12. A true Malaysian
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 11:19:16

    MCA does not belong to anyone,
    It neither belongs to the Chinese Malaysians nor OTK, LTL, CSL, …..
    Maybe it belongs to Umno….?

    MCA is just tools, anak patungs …..

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  13. Dr Hsu
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 11:26:37

    romerz,
    It is still a square peg in a round hole, but the hole is gettig bigger and the square smaller. I am just a speck on top of the square, can probably be brushed off anytime.
    …………………….

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  14. klm
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 11:45:58

    I said every man or woman has his price, If you know what it is, you can easily buy the person. I like to tell the story of one person involved in the Ong-Liow fight and who was bought with just a promise. This story highlight how low the price can be for some people. Dr. Hsu has probably seen enough of this in Gerakan.

    LTL got one guy to turn on OTK by promising this person a Tan Sri title. The person was not elected to his position but appointed by the president to the CC. He turn on OTK based on LTL’s promise.

    The stupidity of the person was that he failed to realise LTL cannot give him the Tan Sriship. He can only recommend and there is no guarantee. He wanted the title so bad that he forgot about this and betrayed his president.

    With this kind of greedy stupid people in MCA leadership and for the matter in Gerakan, MIC etc, what hope do we have. These people are so easy to buy and corrupt. If it is not UMNO, it can be outside power.

    There is total lack of honour, duty and loyalty.

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  15. Justin Choo
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 12:00:58

    Blessings in disguise!! Lingam also no problem! Let MCA, MIC, Gerakan, continue with their sandiwara, the longer the better. Otherwise the voters may forget and vote them again.

    Let UMNO continue the spin. The longer the better.

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  16. observant
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 12:20:36

    “MCA belonged to the Chinese community and not to Keat and Lek.” Ironically, the Chinese community thinks otherwise by not supporting it whole-heatedly because the community has doubts that MCA truly take care of their interests but of certain interests.

    If MCA fully cared for the Chinese community, there wont’t be any OTK, CSL, LTL factions. These factionalism, divisions and washing of dirty linens are proofs of self interests and disunity within the party. The infightings, pasts and present do not augur well and present a negative image and perception to the very people it hopes to represent.

    The rot starts from the head and it is vital that MCA selects a clean and foresighted leader to lead but unfortunately that leader is not within sight at the moment.

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  17. A true Malaysian
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 12:33:55

    You get to see what I meant? MCA does not belong to anyone, but, someone….

    http://www.malaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/41096-ong-dr-chua-hammer-out-truce-with-nudge-from-najib

    They only fighting for themselves, for positions, for kangtao, for whatever, whatnot, they know best.

    Confirmed. Even they come out of BN, they are useless.

    OTK, your name sound “ONG”, but not really “ONG”…

    CSL, your name sound “SUEI”, really “unlucky” for getting filmed without you realising it.

    LTL, your name sound “LIOW”, really “finished”?

    But, just ask yourselves, “Do I still have any conscience in me?”.

    People know who you are, by now. Or later?

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  18. A true Malaysian
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 12:40:07

    For those can read Chinese, Atila inclusive,

    马华党争局势急转直下,目前传出总会长翁诗杰、署理总会长廖中莱,以及原任署理总会长蔡细历,在首相兼国阵主席纳吉的斡旋下,三造已达致“和平协议”,一切打回原形。

    据悉,这项和平协议的可能内容是翁诗杰将继续留任总会长职,不过将取消召开第二场特大;而蔡细历则恢复署理总会长职,不过必须等待社团注册局的宣布;至于廖中莱新任署理总会长的职位另有安排,或许会回到副总会长职。

    http://malaysiakini.com/news/115615

    It seems they still like to have porn star as part of them. DESPICABLE…

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  19. klm
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 12:48:12

    I am waiting to see what will happen to the ant LTL after the two elephants fought and made love. Any guess on who will be the next minister of health?

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  20. A true Malaysian
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 13:33:19

    Maybe there’ll be a Porn Star Ministry, where technically, he is not a porn star.

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  21. CYC
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 14:23:14

    Perhaps its “Thick Face Black Heart” manifestation at peak level, depend on which angle we are looking from. Another Boleh aspect of great Chinese culture.

    I support PSM – YB Dr. Jeyakumar and YB Dr. Nasir Hashim. They are true blue wakil rakyats. At least they have forgotten the concept of class hierarchy, not like many who likes to display their Ph.D and so on irrespective of whether it is genuine or faked one.

    Be smart and get rid of all those remnants (politicians) and flush out into the toilet bowls. They include all the corrupt, both monetary and moral alike. MCA and Gerakan are both redundant parasites that we can live without.

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  22. Dr Hsu
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 14:54:34

    klm,
    Minister of Health post is the last position any politician holds. It is like a dead-end road.

    That has been the norm, despite changing fengshui by swifting to Putrajaya.

    LTL was rumoured to turn against his 2 supporters WKS and girl CMF. So, these three now will be like ‘ghost fighting ghost’, cantonese “guai ta guai’.

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  23. klm
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 15:13:52

    Dr. Hsu

    I heard LTL was supported by some nebulous figures,who had since gone to lick their wounds and try another day. LTL was their front guy. He is left alone to face the music.

    WKS was representing Chan Koon Choy. And girlfriend CMF was of course representing OKT.

    There were different interests in the third force with different goals. Once the play went bad, they will fight each other.

    I have added one more survival rule for No.1

    – get a dumb guy to be No.3.Set him to fight No. 2.
    With No.2 fighting No.3, No.1 will be left in peace.

    This was the failure of OTK.

    By the way, I am seeing rule coming to play in UMNO. Isa is going after Muhyddin. Najib don’t have to worry too much about Muhhyddin.

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  24. A true Malaysian
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 15:24:23

    We can see how rigid is this minister & other position appointment / allocation in BN of course to the whim and fancy of Umno. Which party get which portfolio / position is somehow fixed / allocated, and not based on merit of the candidates concerned.

    This is to say if no qualified personnel in MCA of ministerial position, so long as Umno likes him or her, that person will be appointed. Just wondering if a dog can be a member of MCA, and Umno likes the dog, would the dog be appointed minister?

    Really, there is no righteousness to talk about in Umno and whole BN. So long as someone says OK, its OK.

    Otk is no better than Csl. He will be out next GE.

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  25. A true Malaysian
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 15:33:53

    These peoples disregard their own party’s Constitution. Very soon Federal Constitution shall be disregarded as well. They are just black and white in pieces of paper it seemed. The rightful place is in the dustbin, perhaps.

    EGM = Extraordinary Game of Malaysia

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  26. Dr Hsu
    Oct 22, 2009 @ 16:54:41

    klm,
    This is what i heard too: ISA was selected to contest so that he can check on Mdeen.

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