Indications are the Old Ong is going to triumph over the Top Ong and DvD Chai in the war of the three factions.
Who would have thought that behind the Bruto is the Old Ong; to be frank, I have suspected that they were the third force, when I wrote the article ” a master move” where with less than a 100 votes in control, the third force played havoc over Top Ong and Dvd Chai, and by voting one way for this resolution and another for that, these third force people actually did the unthinkable, removing the top 2 in one move. Unfortunately, the Top Ong, after a holiday, came back and teamed up with Dvd Chai and proposed the Unity plan. And the third force had not enough CC in their bag to resign and force an election.
So DVD Chai became pivotal. Dvd Chai thought that by teaming with Bruto, he would be invincible.
I see that Dvd Chai was played out again by the forces of Bruto. By agreeing to team up with Bruto and asked his men to resigned from CC, and making way for an election, he would not have thought that the Old Ong was behind Bruto and that is exactly what happened.
A real brillaint move, and even Tsu Szu would have approved of this.
However, no matter how much OLd Ong will win, everyone in this party is a loser since people have seen through what sort of leaders these are and in the next General election, they could not possibly survive in mixed seats. I suspect the seats this party won would even be smaller , since 90% of their trqaditional supporters would have left them , after seeing in disgust what kind of people these are. On top of that, there will be a lot of leg pulling since in this type of fight, once fought, there cracks will always be there.
But out of these 3 factions, the people on the ground outside of the party would root for the Top Ong, since he was seen to be able to stand up to the BIg Brother. Of course, perception is one thing, reality is another, whether that is true or not , we would not know.
His only chance now is to team up with Dvd Chai again. And do not discount that, since in this party, the impossible can be possible and the possible can become the impossible. Maybe this time, they would come out with a “Greater Unity Plan”, who knows?
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Mar 20, 2010 @ 17:23:22
We must all pray for Ong Tee Keat to win the MCA Presidency. He was the one who generously offered the Metro Tabernacle to use the MCA Hall for their Sunday Worship when other Christian Churches did not do the same. Only Ong Tee Keat and MCA cares for Christians. Every Christian must support and vote for MCA
The Sunday speaker was the senior pastor of the church (Metro Tabernacle) and after the communal prayer, he began with the absolute duty of the congregation to pray, protect, persevere and even pursue the truth. Wasn’t it the MCA that opened its doors to the Metro Tabernacle church after it was torched?
And was it not the president, Ong Tee Keat who graciously opened the doors to the stricken church.
By that very act alone, the sermon went on, “all Christians, and right and fair minded individuals have a moral and spiritual obligation to hold this man fast in prayers for the upcoming party elections, which many say is a tough uphill task for the reigning president.”
Read more here http://justice4otk.blogspot.com/2010/03/can-you-believe-what-this-oxymoronic.html#comments
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Mar 20, 2010 @ 19:36:12
The old Ong is really devious. He can almost be the devil himself. It will be a sad day for MCA if he wins.
This time he will take MCA to hell.
But on the other hand, it may be good for Malaysia. MCA will be totally dispatched. It will be fully guillotined in the next election. BN will be shaky.
The Big U knows this. Big U could be making big trouble in the near future.
So, beware.
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Mar 20, 2010 @ 20:22:32
wondering what CJ meng is pondering at this moment?
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Mar 20, 2010 @ 22:27:37
Kim, u r right!
Old Ong is a schemer, deceptive, smooth talker, a person with many masks and a perfect actor. His first ex wife Esther (ended in divorce) can be witness to his character. In the mid 80s, his first ex wife sent out hundreds of poison letter decrying how he spent her money…etc.
And how later, he won the confidence of Fish head and manipulated his way up to be successor while marginalising other party leaders and even dropped a few competitors as part of the fish head retirement plan. Every thing is documented and not bullshit….in an court affidavit filed by an ex party leader which never saw the light of the day.
And the superman Ong is also not an angel either orchestrating character assassination with the party’s powerful newspaper CEO, with blogs and blogspots and successfully demonised Brutus and crybaby despite the reality they projected was not what had actually happened. You see, helping the church doesn’t make him a saint…he has a split personality. They all have masks.
metaphorically behavior like saint, look like a saint, smell like a saint and talk like a saint….but NOT a saint.
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Mar 20, 2010 @ 23:50:48
Let MCA ponder like hell in Hell after the next GE. Vote them out in all and every seat they contest. Hopefully only then they would begin to consider serving the interests of the people they claim to represent, not just fighting cats and dogs to safe-guard their personal agenda like they do now.
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 08:37:50
thank for your information
rgd
Robert
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 09:58:17
Since Mahathir took over Umno as president, he introduced ‘collective responsibility’ where government Cabinet and party Supreme Council supposedly collectively responsible for what they do. From outside, it looks like ‘team work’ but in essence, Mahathir was given ‘prerogative’ to select the team members he wanted. They rest become history, the so-called team members became nothing but ‘yes man’.
This culture has become a model to the entire BN. We see Ling LS ‘cai-dan’, LKY Gelakan, Semi V MIC. ‘Collective Responsibility’ has become a sham for these people to be in power for as long as they want until tsunami 308, where they got no choice but to go. Even then, most members in the teams are still there.
Marverick Ong, in essence, is not a team player, but for survival, he compromises here and there. He knows this model is not the way as the team members acted in cohort and cover each others’ back side. Like what we see in many scandals like PKFZ. This is what the Old Ong said, he can unite MCA again.
So, to dismantle this model in MCA, marverick Ong introduces direct presidential election instead of centre delegates model that can be easily manipulated.
For this round, marverick Ong is facing hard time, and to scrap through, central delegates must look beyond self for the good of MCA and the country as a whole. If MCA still want to play its role of representing the Chinese community, they must share the same aspiration of the community and not the aspiration of Umno. Anyway, the aspiration of the Chinese community is that of multiracial politics, fair play, meritocracy, justice for all etc etc as we found in Pakatan Rakyat.
For MCA to survive in the long run, it needs to do away with the model that I am talking about, stand up for rakyat’s aspiration. It is all rest on the hands of the central delegates. You decide.
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 11:03:57
ATM says it well, we don’t want a saint, what we want is someone that could break the old ways of doing thing. We hope his model not only work for BN but could set a good precedent for PR.
清者自清 谣言止于智者. If doing nothing wrong, why worry about demonized? The most essential quality of democracy is to have a free media with free flow of information, we now have fractional that is progress not through the mainstream, though some could be bias and prejudiced, is it not anytime better than a single stupid source?
Let the people be the judge.
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 12:12:48
With his prerogative power, Mahathir set a very bad or unhealthy precedent by appointing losers as minister, deputy minister and so on. He effectively made Malaysian democracy into one of big joke for the world to laugh at.
With around 16 parliamentary seats (I am sure the exact figure) on hand, MCA can do something with it, but they prefer to do nothing as what they care are their pockets, and of course Umno’s pockets.
One doesn’t need a genius to read what are happening behind. Scumbags (like what cilipadi said) are apt description for them. I never know this old Ong is a wife cheater. Now I know…..
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 13:27:08
If I want a saint I go to the church. But MCA is not a church. MCA is cess pool full of bottom feeding scums. I vote for the devil of he can clean up this cess pool.
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 13:37:56
Are you saying that Lim Ah Lek is part of this Third Force?
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 15:56:10
mca is doom. the old Ong coming back just show what type of leader mca have.
if like that, why not ask old fox mahathir to come back to UMNO? why not ask old fox lim keng yaik to come back to gerakan?
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 16:05:13
Is Lim Ah Lek part of the Third Force?
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 18:42:37
The below is like about what I commented, though not exactly the same,
马华既然声称代表华社，那么华社的声音，才是中央代表们，最应该尊重的意见。华社其实最需要的，是一位愿意牺牲自己，不畏强权，敢于为马来西亚全民利益，向巫统呛声的领袖，而不是那些整天希望得到首相“祝福”的马华公会总会长。
各位尊敬的2000多名马华公会中央代表，328你们投的，不只是一个总会长来整合马华那么简单，您们投的，是全体华社的兴衰利益，如果一味的只是因为您们属于那个阵营，那么，下一届大选，华社将“含泪投票”，用大选决定马华公会是否适合继续代表华社在内阁里面讲话。
不才在这边只能用四个字，“好自为之”，来劝告各位中央代表，不要再去看派系，而是以全体华社利益为考量，被华社否决的马华，挣回来的总会长、署理、副总、中委，又有什么用呢？
http://malaysiakini.com/letters/127120
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 20:54:58
I cannot answer that but he is supporting the head of the third force. Ask monk he was an insider he should know better.
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 21:51:34
I don’t know whether he is the head of the 3rd force but he is the principal agitator who prompted the Old Ong coming back for another taste of power.
I actually spoke to him so I am not demonizing him for a fact.
It is easy to say, done no wrong therefore why worried about being demonize. I am not a politician, so maybe the remark is correct. But for politicians, it is a different matter. Sure if you are a ikan bilis politician, there is nothing to worry. But if the politician is somebody, it is a different matter.
Look at how the other Ong, superman demonize his rivals and the “bull-shit” sticks. Yes, probably because it is shit, all types of shit stinks. The bullshit could be false shit but the perception sticks on the politician. Of course, if we consider, the cause and effects, the person who throws the shit will get the effects later. Like old Ong now.
I doubt the superman Ong can win. He is finished. And feedback looks likely that…….will win. No point telling now, losing the excitement for some people. Most people couldn’t care less anyway.
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Mar 21, 2010 @ 22:42:55
All wife cheaters are scumbags but not all scumbags are wife cheaters.
Monk knows than me, another scumbag wife cheater on my bag. Better rename MCA to MSA or MWA.
You know what S & W stand for, monk?
wife cheater makan cili, which ong rasa pedas
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Mar 22, 2010 @ 12:09:37
Its an election of the best among the worst. So, u can see the greedy faces reciting holy verses praising their wealth facilitator.
Again would like to remind all readers : “a person who had lost his sense of shame is beyond redemption.” Worst still, he is capable of doing anything as long as it satisfies his greed and ignorant fantasies.
Politics is a game for those who are hunger for wealth, fame and power. It simply comprises of the elites (be it in terms of wealth or intelligence) working tirelessly in manipulating the critical mass who are uninformed of the real truth or ignorant of the real motives of those at the top. The intellectuals willingly let their intelligence or knowledge being exploited for the unwholesome gain of the weird and cunning master. Knowledge and intelligence become cheap and hollow. Hence u see scholars came out with their call of racial unity, holier than thou personalities, and all sorts of absurdities in supporting certain candidates. Can u name me anyone worst than this kind of fake scholars who prostitute their knowledge in return for lusting to be associated with ” a leader” as they perceived to be the ultimate one should belongs.
Dr, while watching this MCA circus show dun forget your own Gelakan house is also on fire. But dun worry, u need to get rid of the old house in order to reconstruct a new one unless u opt to shift house.
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Mar 22, 2010 @ 15:16:52
Watch this MCA is the same as watching pieces of waste in the cesspool. It is just as interesting and disgusting.
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Mar 22, 2010 @ 15:30:40
I think you should read this ops-ed by Thomas Friedman.
If the US were to follow what he said, Malaysia brain drain will accelerate. He is suggesting that US should have first pick of global talent with US Immigration practice. This is scary.
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Mar 22, 2010 @ 18:00:09
Gosh Doc, don’t call any of them a mastermind or relate them to SunTzu. He would have them slaughtered for losing the war while playing politics.
Chinese are great people but it is not because we are under Gelakan or MCA but the reverse is true.
Remember how Gelakan were busy choosing their next ‘CHIEF MINISTER OF PENANG’ while DAP are busy ‘playing guitar’ to entertain the community. These are the same sh*t all over again.
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Mar 22, 2010 @ 19:48:44
Frankly speaking, who cares who end up top in MCA.
Have never believe MCA cares for the downtrodden never was, never will, bcoz, they are all “Mau Cari Angpau”.
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Mar 23, 2010 @ 00:11:58
A joke by a delegate today.
(Quote) “There are 3 candidates now”
First one, loves to wear his underwear outside (spilling sarcasms of his rivals and washing dirty linen in public);
Second one, so straightforward, he exposes everything thing including the naked truth;
The third one, is so secretive, everything hiding and functions like CIA or FBI, only telling you what you need to know.
So he ended, “How to vote?”
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Mar 23, 2010 @ 11:33:45
Don’t vote
MCA is a gone case, like Gelakan.
Vote gone case
Not vote also gone case
Why vote then? Sleep at home better
Delegates makan cili, rasa pedas, not going to vote
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Mar 23, 2010 @ 17:47:29
Don’t focus on politicians only, beware of the hired hand who could write beautifully in glorying their master. These are the learned prostitutes with low morality and dignity. They may have doctorate degree but merely mastered the skill of doctoring essay to suits their master’s need. The Chinese educated one especially. No discrimination intended here as I am also Chinese primary educated.
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