What has Malaysian society become ?

A 15 year old school boy was shot dead in the middle of the night. What a shocker!

While waiting for more details to come out, one thing is sure. There must be a stricter rule governing the use of firearms by enforcement officers including the police. Unless they face a life threatening situation, and this case, apparently they were the one chasing the boys and  not the other way round; they are therefore not in immediate danger of life, why should they shoot to kill?

There must be a thorough investigation and anyone who has breached the standard procedure for firing  a gun must be charged and justice dispensed.

Having said so, I must admit that I do not have too much  faith in any investigations being independent and fair. Just look at TBh’s case; there are simply too many unresolved riddles. The case simply has too many holes and not all aspects have been fully covered.

On the other hand, this shoot-to-kill case brought to my mind a trend that is worrying. Youngsters are spending too much time outside at night.

The whole Klang valley is a city that never sleeps. If you care to go out at night, there will be people — on the roads, sitting in Mamak stalls or drinking joints . These people are mainly youngsters that never sleep; or rather they sleep while we are awake and they are actively doing their ‘things’ while we are asleep.

Even cinemas are taking advantage of these youngsters. Midnight shows used to be on Saturday, but now, you see cinemas advertising midnight shows even in the weekdays.

Another worrying trend is that more and more people are disregarding the traffic rules. This has become like a lawless country. People run red lights; people park in no parking zones; people going the wrong direction in  one-way streets. Simply put, people are doing what they like regardless of traffic rules.

Now, even a 15 year old is driving a car. I doubt he has any formal driving lessons. When put  in a panic situation, what do you expect him to do? To run of course!. This kind of behaviour maybe due to peer pressure, but the ultimate responsibility must lie with the parents.

Why do they allow the child to go out so late at night? 2 am,  my God!

Why do they allow a 15 year old to drive? Are they not aware that their child is driving illegally? If they are not aware of all these, then they have failed in their roles as parents and guardians. A 15 year old still needs to be guided and watched. He is not an adult yet.

I am sad that these things are happening. But to be frank, allowing a child so young to drive and go out at night is inviting disaster to happen.

What has Malaysian society become?

(This post is caried in the breaking view of Malaysian Insider)

18 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. CYC
    Apr 29, 2010 @ 12:38:25

    This one is something not related to race, is Gerakan prepared to champion the cause for a transparent investigation or mere lips service again, KTK ? Gerakan is totally silent on TBH’s case, why? No “kang tow” there or TBH set of law not applicable to elites like u ? Hopeless so called elite party.

    KTK, do u understand “知耻近乎勇“ ?or do u only care for “道义放两旁, 利字摆中间”.


  2. klm
    Apr 29, 2010 @ 13:35:17

    When the politicians (supposedly leaders of the nation) think that they are above the law, why would normal people think otherwise. If they or their children can get away with bad acts, why not the normal people. In the end, the only way to enforce any law is with the gun. The only respect left is deadly force.

    What has Malaysian society become? It has become a jungle full of deadly animals.


    Apr 29, 2010 @ 14:04:19



  4. CYC
    Apr 29, 2010 @ 17:36:44

    Dragon Tai,

    Just go through all those news report and on going inquest of Teoh BH and Kugan’s case u will understand how the public’s suspicion arise. As a law abiding citizen, we appreciate the contribution of police force in maintaining public order and combating crimes. But too many cases point to the misdeed of PDRM where no action was taken against those who act outside their limit of authority or mandate.

    The govt is to be blamed first because they condone brutality in exchange of co-operation of PDRM to execute their political manhunt of the opposition. They refused to reform the police force despite being advised so by the Royal commission of inquiry set up upon the nude squatting incident is a living proof of a poor governance indeed.

    1 Country 2 set of laws. One for the elites(the ruling partners and the next of kin) and other for the commoners. This is 1Malaysia spirit we are shouting about?

    Democracy is meant for rich to be minority in number but majority in terms of wealth possession. Taxes are meant to milk from the hard working middle class to feed the crooked, lazy and incompetents. So, enforcement simply forcing the commoners to abide the rule of the elites irrespective of its relevance or partiality. Cos I rule u obey. This is the order our govt trying to maintain.

    Are u MCA & Gerakan basta*d laughing at our ignorance and helplessness OR we will stripe the set of law privileged only to basta*d “elites” like U.


  5. Tecky
    Apr 29, 2010 @ 17:44:55

    It’s true that we are a nation in a long decline. Many of the problems can be attributed to our politics (and we certainly need to fix that!), but we also need to think about our personal behaviour.


  6. klm
    Apr 29, 2010 @ 20:50:31

    Let us face it. Malaysia is no longer a civil society. It is a feudalistic medieval society, even though we have the trapping of a modern society. Might is right. Money is right. The rule is , I have power ergo I do no wrong you. Remember Dr Hsu’s story of his deputy minister friend going through traffic light.

    Morality do not apply to the rich and powerful.


  7. 2nd class
    Apr 29, 2010 @ 22:47:22

    Thank you for giving a balance view. The mistake is on both side more on the teenager.


  8. stevent
    Apr 30, 2010 @ 02:07:04

    At the States, those who are not eligible to drive will learn their driving at night, sometimes with supervision, sometimes not. When the cops pull them over, the cops would often tell them to drive carefully. Logically, you can only learn driving during the night and not the day. Sadly our authorities do not have that etiquette here. One should wonder why. Aren’t we the moralistic society or at least one with higher ethics compare to the rest of the world?

    I often do not understand why should we tell others what to do and what not to do. People must learn from mistakes and they won’t unless they make those mistakes. If we restrict freedom to one group, our own desired freedom will eventually be restricted by a more omniscient group. We should always evolve with time. Sadly our society is not and this is the biggest challenge our nation is facing. Whether we can achieve a high income society or even realize vision 2020 will be dependent solely on whether we can adopt to 21st century needs.

    People have the right not to be productive. It is their choice if they choose to enjoy themselves with vices and such. We should economicalized these activities. By making them illegal, we are unintentionally allowing the haves to defy the rules and the have nots suffering by needing to bribe and pay fines.

    I was speaking to a few of my classmates who are doing housemanship at local hospitals and they were surprised that most teens have no knowledge on stds and prevention. To top it off, in today’s star newspaper the ministry said that our current education on reproductive health is good enough as it is covered in like 6 separate subjects. Conservatism and selfishness is killing this nation. This shows in the recent Hulu Selangor election. Perhaps there is no hope after all.

    Lastly, i recently spoken with the CEO of a multibillion dollar company. He’s a malaysian chinese by the way. I asked him whether the east can ever match up with the west since every economist is saying that this is the century of the tiger. He told me ‘NO’. We’ll never be able to compete because it is in our culture ‘not to share’. Truthfully i agree. The reason why countries like America and Canada became the melting point for people of all ethnicity all over the world is because of the opportunity to share the knowledge, wealth, resources for one purpose – which is to make live better for everyone else. That is innovation and that is coined as the ‘American Dream’. We need a politician who can understand this and inspire our nation so that our youths will be able to develop hope to work towards our own Malaysian Dream.


  9. CYC
    Apr 30, 2010 @ 14:50:25

    Now the IGP is threatening the rakyats , so what say u BN ?

    KTK said in Malaysia , all positions including Penang CM post will be filled up those qualified and capable person irregardless of race. What i blatant lie. Is he implying that no non Bumi ever qualified to head our public universities or GLCs. Exactly like Teng HN, thinks as if all Malaysians are idiots.

    Steven, u are right. Chinese especially never like to share hence all food recipes become “secret recipe”. I have the experience to talk to a Chinese sinseh who confessed that it is absolutely alright to withhold certain medical knowledge as “secret recipe” without feeling guilty or immoral. How to expect the Chinese medicine industry to improve if we don’t eliminate this kind of selfish thought.


  10. ong
    Apr 30, 2010 @ 19:45:57

    This is a case of one story with two separate and distinct issues.

    The first issue is about our trigger-happy police who shoot first and ask question later. Tragically quite often the victim cannot answer the question because he/she is already dead.

    The second issue is about irresponsible parents who allow their teenage children to be out of their homes until late at night or even into the wee hours of the morning when they are supposed to be in bed and sleeping. In my opinion such teenage children should not even be awake even if they are at home.

    Worse still, such children are allowed to drive the family car. I believe the adult members of the family must have at some earlier time allowed or even taught the under-aged children to learn to drive.

    In this case the under-aged driver got killed by the police. On the other hand it could have happened that the under-aged driver ended up killing some innocent third party when his car went out of control.


  11. disgusted
    Apr 30, 2010 @ 21:52:58

    “We should evolve with time.”

    Rightly said and absolutely correct but…….

    Don’t we realize by now that all the symptoms that makes this country backward while others are zooming past us. Hardly anything in this country “evolve” in the right direction.

    Firstly, the feudal and tribal mindset at the highest or top ruling regime is the biggest obstacle against evolution, changing mindsets, transformation etc. Yet, despite all the trumpeting and slogan shouting on “transformation”, it is all a farce. See how the top brass cops handles the shooting case, the Teoh’s case and recently responses to the Hulu Selangor buy election.

    The feudal warlords shouting down the Chinese for not giving the votes because they should be “grateful.” But “grateful” for what? Are the ruling government private owners of this country? Do they own this nation? Or are they “trustees” elected by the people? Are they servants of the people?

    But I guess, this feudal mindset which I prefer to call it “primitive” (not evolving at all) is the main crutch of the setback, not only this country but their personal “de-evolvution”. So that’s why I call them “poltergeists” instead of “animals” because animals do evolve and getting more intelligent. How do you expect this country to progress and make headway when this country is ruled by an “oligarchy” elitist with cobweb brains.

    Yes, humans can only evolve when they think as humans and not confined to “race” obsession, a close closeted space occupied by the four letter dirty word, r-a-c-e.

    There is no such “nonsense” in spiritual dimensions, only stupid fools on planet earth.


  12. klm
    May 01, 2010 @ 10:21:26

    monk. there are two sides to Man. Man the civilised being and Man the savage. In good time the civil being prevail. When the environment deteriorates either due to Man’s doing or due to nature, the savage beast in Man breaks loose. Today, we have it up to the neck, bad politics , sense of unfairness, injustice and prosecution. This is manifested in savagery on the road – the road thugs for one. No respect for life and willingness to shoot the other person. And in general the strong urge to whack the other guy down either verbally or physically.

    Is the policemen reaction any different? They are the makings of the environment. Given the situation and the guns, would you shoot. I probably would. Would you?


  13. Rhan
    May 01, 2010 @ 10:21:38

    A culture of “not to share” could let you learn the history, philosophy, medicine, map, art and etc that happen thousands years ago? Did the West share with you how to make nuclear, processor, hard disk, airplane, charge you free for drug and open up Coca-cola and KFC recipe?

    The Chinese lack: (1) Capitalistic attitude toward creating wealth (2) Aggressor approach in dealing with others.

    And this might due to: (1) Confucius middle way (2) Tianxia point of view.

    I am not too sure if the progress we see now would lead human to a better life, however it seem we don’t have much choice.


  14. klm
    May 01, 2010 @ 11:32:24

    Rhan. I do not agree with your view. It may be true of Malaysian chinese (but i dont think so) but definitely not true of Chinese of other nations.

    As for the west not sharing knowledge, it is not true. The west would not share trade secrets, nor would anyone else. But they shared knowledge. The strength of the west over eastern culture is that they are open in knowledge sharing.

    If the American had not share the knowledge of the transistor in the 1950s, would Asia be prosperous today? Bell Laboratories who owned the patent for transistor only license the patent for USD 25,000. It offer a license to small Japanese start up called Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo, because the licensing manager like the innovation culture of this company and thought they could do something with the technolgy. At that time, no body know what to do with the discovery. He was right . Tokyo Tsushin Kogyo became Sony.

    Fast forward to the 1970s, RCA of America transferred technology to the govt of Taiwan and trained its engineer in the making electronic chips. It cost Taiwan only 10million USD. This was the corner stone of the business worth over 130 Billion USD a year to Taiwan.

    These are examples I know. The issue is not the transfer of knowledge, but whether the people can learn, apply and make use of the knowledge. you can take a horse to water but you can’t make it drink. I think this is true of people in Malaysia, at least certain kind of people.


  15. Rhan
    May 01, 2010 @ 12:24:54

    klm, I love disagreement, otherwise Hsu blog might become too one-sided, which is no good for democracy. 🙂

    I think the West strong value system is their humanitarian manner, scientific approach, detail analysis and fact base. Like I said, the capitalism push the commercial and merchandize activity to privately own, hence almost everything become a “trade secret”. Their willing to share knowledge is always come with selfish agenda, why the transfer/sharing is not towards a poor communist China in the 50, 60 and 70 but to Taiwan and Japan? What about labour cost and tax break?

    There is much we could learn from the West but to conclude that Chinese culture lean toward not sharing of knowledge is to me, absurd.


  16. sosong
    May 01, 2010 @ 18:12:44

    If you dont like the way my staffs collect taxes/fees, then I stopped them from doing so?
    If you dont like the way my doctors/nurse treated the patients, then I stopped them from doing so?
    If you dont like the way my judges convicted accuseds, then I stopped them from doing so?
    If you dont like the way my men caned convicts, then I stopped them from doing so?
    If you dont like the way my teachers taught the pupils, then I stopped them from doing so/


  17. ketuanaan Cina
    May 04, 2010 @ 09:07:46

    Mal needs a generational change in mindset…. Otherwise by 2020, it’s gonna be ” Visit Malbabwe 2020″ where $1000 Malbabwe = $1 Vietnamese Dong.


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