A tale of two nations

Posting an artilce from Bloomberg news Nov. 11 2010. The gap is in fact widening between these 2 brother nations .

Bloomberg News
Nov 11, 2010

Singapore Seen Overtaking Malaysia 45 Years After Lee’s Tears
By Shamim Adam

Forty-five years after Singapore’s expulsion from a union with
Malaysia left Lee Kuan Yew in tears on national television, the
economy of the city-state he led to independence is poised to overtake
its neighbor.

Singapore’s gross domestic product will cap its fastest annual growth
this year since independence, rising as much as 15 percent to about
$210 billion, while the economy of Malaysia, a country 478 times its
size, will expand 7 percent to $205 billion, government forecasts
show. The nations are scheduled to release their 2010 data by
February.

The island that former economic adviser Albert Winsemius once said was
considered a “poor little market in a dark corner of Asia” is now
ranked by the World Bank as the easiest place to do business, has the
world’s second-busiest container port, and boasts the highest
proportion of millionaire households, according to the Boston
Consulting Group.

“Singapore kept on moving to the next level as the world economy
evolved and adjusted to market demands and investors’ interests,” said
Lee Hock Guan, senior fellow at the Singapore- based Institute of
Southeast Asian Studies. “Malaysia was struck by the curse of
resource-rich countries: It didn’t optimize its human capital.”

From a low-cost manufacturing center for companies such as Texas
Instruments Inc. in the 1960s, Singapore has become the world’s
fourth-largest foreign-exchange center with a S$1.2 trillion ($932
billion) asset-management industry.

Rising Wealth

Smaller than New York City and the only Southeast Asian nation without
natural resources, Singapore has grown 189-fold since independence in
1965, helping boost GDP per capita to $36,537 last year from $512.
Malaysia’s economy expanded at one- third the pace during the same
period and had a GDP per capita of $6,975 in 2009, up from $335 in
1965.

Malaysia’s growth fell to an average 4.7 percent a year in the past
decade, from 7.2 percent in the 1990s, when former prime minister
Mahathir Mohamad wooed overseas manufacturers, built highways and
erected the world’s tallest twin towers.

“Development is like a marathon and all policies geared toward it must
be sustainable and continuous,” said Thomas Lam, chief economist at
OSK-DMG, a venture between Malaysian securities firm OSK Holdings Bhd.
and Deutsche Bank AG. “Malaysia runs the marathon like a 100 meter
event, so you see the initial spurt but not continuous progress in the
race.”

Lam, 35, is one of 386,000 Malaysians who have become permanent
residents or citizens of Singapore, a list that includes Health
Minister Khaw Boon Wan and Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. Chairman
Cheong Choong Kong.

‘Greater’ Opportunity

“Singapore seems to offer greater career opportunity and mobility in
my field,” said Lam, the second-most-accurate U.S. economic forecaster
for 2008 to 2009 in Bloomberg surveys.

After more than 140 years under British rule, Singapore joined the
Federation of Malaysia in September 1963 as Lee and his colleagues
sought a bigger common market to cut unemployment and curb communism.
The merger survived less than two years amid ideological differences
and worsening relations between the United Malays National
Organisation, which dominated the ruling Barisan Nasional coalition,
and Lee’s People’s Action Party.

“For me, it is a moment of anguish,” Lee said on Aug. 9, 1965, the day
Singapore became a sovereign state. “My whole adult life, I believed
in Malaysian merger and unity of the two territories.” Lee, 87, was
Singapore’s prime minister from 1959 to 1990.

‘Loss of Time’

Winsemius, the country’s economic adviser from 1961 to 1984, said he
thought the merger was a “loss of time.” Credited with helping
formulate Singapore’s industrial strategy, Winsemius, who died in
1996, said the general opinion of Singapore in the early 1960s was a
country “going down the drain.”

The government acted by investing in export-based industries. It built
new container terminals for Singapore’s port, the genesis of the
country’s development; reclaimed land offshore to attract companies
such as Exxon Mobil Corp. and Royal Dutch/Shell Group for a S$30
billion oil refining complex; and moved into high-tech industries like
electronics and drugs.

“Economic development does not occur naturally,” said Ravi Menon, a
senior official at Singapore’s Ministry of Trade and Industry. “This
is where free marketers are disenchanted with Singapore. The
government has never hesitated from guiding the development process or
intervening in markets where it believes such intervention will lead
to superior outcomes.”

Biomedical Research

The government invested about S$500 million in its Biopolis biomedical
research hub after attracting drugmakers including Pfizer Inc. and
Novartis AG. It cut corporate tax rates by nine percentage points
since 2000 to 17 percent, compared with 25 percent in Malaysia.

BNP Paribas has a “buy” recommendation on Keppel Corp. and SembCorp
Marine Ltd., the world’s biggest builders of oil rigs and two of the
companies the government backed to propagate its industrial policy.
Singapore Technologies Engineering Ltd., Asia’s biggest
aircraft-maintenance company, was rated a “buy” by Deutsche Bank AG.

Singapore was kicked out of the union partly because Lee opposed
Malaysia’s affirmative-action policy, which provides special rights to
the ethnic Malay majority. While Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak
has pledged to roll back key policies of ethnic favoritism, he told
UMNO’s 61st General Assembly last month that the “social contract”
that gives benefits to the Malays cannot be repealed.

Najib’s Plan

“Singapore will overtake Malaysia because its focus is just on
economic growth,” Mahathir, Malaysia’s prime minister from 1981 to
2003, said in an e-mailed response to questions. “There is no social
restructuring goal such as fair distribution of wealth between races
as we have in Malaysia.”

Najib is trying to return the Malaysian economy to the levels of
growth that boosted stock prices almost fivefold in the decade through
1996. He set a goal of tripling gross national income to 1.7 trillion
ringgit ($550 billion) in 2020, from 600 billion ringgit in 2009 and
creating 3.3 million jobs.

His government unveiled an economic transformation program in
September aimed at attracting investment, including $444 billion of
programs this decade ranging from mass rail to nuclear power, led by
private and government-linked companies. Najib is also taking steps to
bolster the talent base, including plans for a teaching hospital with
courses by Baltimore-based Johns Hopkins University and a new
corporation tasked with luring back skilled Malaysians from overseas.

About 350,000 to 400,000 Malaysian citizens work in Singapore,
including 150,000 who commute daily via buses and motorcycles to jobs
in the city-state’s factories, kitchens and offices.

Export Model

“Singapore followed the export-led industrialization model to become a
base for foreign manufacturers,” said Lee of the Institute of
Southeast Asian Studies. “The main model for Malaysia for a number of
years was import-substitution where it protected certain industries.
That created inertia.”

Lee, a 52-year-old Malaysian who studied and lived overseas for more
than 30 years, said he plans to return to live in Malaysia only when
he retires.

Singapore beat 182 economies to take first place in the World Bank’s
annual ranking of business conditions, which looks at property rights,
taxes, access to credit, labor laws and regulations on customs and
licenses. Malaysia climbed two steps to 21st, according to the Nov. 4
report.

Mercer Consulting ranked Singapore as Asia’s most livable city in May,
even as it lags behind Hong Kong on measurements of personal freedom
and media censorship. The government says restrictions on public
assembly and speeches are necessary to maintain social and religious
harmony among its 5 million people. The city was wracked by violence
between ethnic Malays and Chinese in the 1960s.

The country must keep innovating to stay ahead, said Tomo Kinoshita,
deputy head of Asia economics research at Nomura Holdings Inc. in Hong
Kong.

“Singapore must keep searching for new markets,” Kinoshita said. “Less
developed Asian countries are all growing quickly and trying to catch
up.”

35 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. klm
    Nov 12, 2010 @ 14:50:30

    It is a tragedy that a land so endowed with natural resources like Malaysia can be so behind. It is a sin that its resources cannot be efficiently and effectively utilised to build its economy. It is a blasphemy that the talents of its people are not harnessed properly.
    Under the guise of social restructuring, much of the money had been stolen. Malaysians had been fooled by the leaders they voted into power. Malaysians had been short changed.

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  2. CYC
    Nov 12, 2010 @ 16:25:19

    Syabas Malaysia ! Kita memang Boleh. Our productivity is 1/5 of that little red dot. We will beat them once our ETP is completed, Najib dreams.

    Singapore learned from Israel about economic transformation, we used Israelis (APCO) as PR consultant. Bodoh betul !

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  3. disgusted
    Nov 12, 2010 @ 19:26:01

    Another article ?? Caption:

    “Malaysia Seen Going Down the Pit 8 Years after Mahathir’s Tears” (full-stop)

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  4. chabalang
    Nov 12, 2010 @ 22:09:07

    The old horse just refuse to admit that He LOST, lost so badly with all the resources and human capital endowed on Malaysia.

    WHO benefits from the so-called social restructuring? We all know where the benefits went to. I am sure an average S’poreans Malay is earning at least three times more than an average M’sian Malay and living a much higher standard of living.

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  5. disgusted
    Nov 12, 2010 @ 22:40:21

    Speech by Lee Hsien Loong when he was Trade and Industry/Second Minister for Defence(Services) in 1987 at the International Herald Tribute Centennial Conference. Theme: “Managing Transition in Political Leadership” He said:

    “Singapore’s survival and progress depends crucially on its having a strong government. The only advantage which our tiny size confers on us is nimbleness, and to be nimble we need a strong government, able not only to react quickly to events but also act quickly to master events.

    “It must be a capable government. Singaore works because it is a meritocracy, and its political leaders must also be selected on the same principle. Not only must be the best men among the candidates win political contests, but the best men in the nation must be in politics.

    “Ministers and MPs cannot be chosen on the basis of political horsetrading, cronyism or family ties. They must comprise some of the ablest people in the country, with the dedication, determination and integrity to set the direction for the nation, and provide the framework for orderly growth and vibrant prosperity. Without such leadership, the centre cannot hold and things fall apart.”

    ****************************************

    So, what about here? We all know, no need to write.

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  6. Y1M
    Nov 13, 2010 @ 09:15:18

    “One Malaysia
    One Day
    Starts Today”

    This could be the new slogan for 1 Malaysia

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  7. Rhan
    Nov 13, 2010 @ 09:50:41

    So we are ready to embrace LKY and Singapore style of political system?

    “I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today. And I say without the slightest remorse, that we wouldn’t be here, we would not have made economic progress, if we had not intervened on very personal matters – who your neighbour is, how you live, the noise you make, how you spit, or what language you use. We decide what is right. Never mind what the people think.”

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  8. disgusted
    Nov 13, 2010 @ 12:32:56

    I think it is not the “style” or “system” that a country adopts. It is the universal principles of governance: justice, fair, accountability, transparency, upright etc and no one or quarters can claim monopoly to these attributes of (also) cosmic laws (i.e. morality etc).

    Don’t miss the forest for the wood.

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  9. jughead
    Nov 13, 2010 @ 17:15:17

    Of course, Rhan would say Singapore’s sucess is due to its lack of democary and LKY’s iron fisted hand in his capacity as Senior Minister and mentor

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  10. A true Malaysian
    Nov 13, 2010 @ 19:15:31

    Rhan,

    What more can I say?

    Meritocracy is still a ‘must’ ingredient for Malaysia in all fields, weather you like it or not.

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  11. Rhan
    Nov 14, 2010 @ 01:09:52

    Jughead, nope, Mr. Lee said that, if you disagree with him, come up with your refutation.

    Disgusted, how do we assess fair and justice when there is no free press and freedom of political expression? Is there justice when LCS and anyone that deemed threaten the authority was imprisoned? And is that coincidence LKY never lose any court case? What accountability are we talking about and how often you see the minister or GLC officer appointed by government resigned from their post even when billions of their investment evaporated? Or that Mat Selamet? I have no idea how transparency have anything to do with Singapore. If the forest is only about the success and not the ruthless and thuggery, well, I think I have to ‘respect’ that opinion.

    ATM, I agree, but I don’t know yet the route that could lead us there, I think a more open and democratic society would help, what about you?

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  12. AgreeToDisagree
    Nov 14, 2010 @ 13:16:35

    Don’t bother quoting Lee Hsien Loong :

    ”Back in 1990, Loong had a quarrel with Richard Hu. S. Dhanabalan sided with Richard. Loong lost his temper. He reached across the table and gave Dhanabalan a tight slap. The whole Cabinet was thrown into commotion.

    The ‘slapping incident’ was extracted from a recent book by Australian Ross Worthington.

    Lee Hsien Loong has also mishandled many cases. In many instances, where he’s supposed to moderate, he didn’t. Typically other ministers would give their opinions, but not him. Only when the dust has settled, he makes an appearance to claim credit and grandstand himself.

    Oh and remember those millions worth in salaries Lee Kuan Yew still draws. Then note the relatives throughout government and private sector, and the collusion with fallen and in hiding PM Thaksin to defraud the Thai electorate of tax monies woth hundreds of millions via backdoor deals.

    NEPOTISM, CORRUPTION and DICTATORSHIP.

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  13. jughead
    Nov 14, 2010 @ 22:04:45

    I agree with him.
    To certain extent, he did interfere. At that time, kampongs started to tear down and people have to live in flats. Once you are up in 10th, one will stay indoor and does not know thy neighbour and there were those grudgingly. That that time, the flats are either 1 or 2 bed rooms and how to cater for large families especially the poor and the malays.

    Later, there is more income and people start to move to areas equivalent to PJ Utama, Subang Jaya. So there is rich and poor areas. He proposed that there should be a mix. Tere are community centres and peoples associations. but in malaysia, after 50 years, we are still talking c**K about race, religion, less opportunities. We still think class like area we come from

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  14. A true Malaysian
    Nov 14, 2010 @ 23:12:19

    Rhan,

    “ATM, I agree, but I don’t know yet the route that could lead us there”

    We should start ‘meritocracy’ route from kindergarten, primary school, secondary school, high school, college & university, politics, government…..’

    “I think a more open and democratic society would help, what about you?”

    Definitely yes, every one of us, irrespective of which political ideology we inclined to, should respect the spirit of democracy. After each general election, let the winning party form government and administer the country competently, accountable & transparent manner. We should be able to this CAT concept even though it was made famous by LGE administration.

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  15. AgreeToDisagree
    Nov 15, 2010 @ 06:48:32

    Reminders on What Spirit of Democracy IS :

    1) No Nepotism / No Oligarchy
    Nurul Case Studies
    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=318515515322&topic=15323
    http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=318515515322&topic=15216

    2) No Patronage Politics / No Clique Politics

    3) COMPETENCY : No Vested Interests (Sand Mining) / No Elegant Silences (plenty on issues)

    4) ACCOUNTABILITY : Non Malicious Compliance / Willingness to Amend Oppressive By-Laws
    The Gambier Threat – Mid 2010

    Make Forced Military Conscriptions VOLUNTARY

    5) TRANSPARENCY : which means NO CLOSED DOOR SESSIONS, something Pakatan seems to lapse into quite often.

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  16. CYC
    Nov 15, 2010 @ 11:20:24

    AgreetoDisagree,

    Idealism without practical consideration is destined to fail.

    Elitism can’t save the world as it detach with the real world we live in.

    Anyhow, I respect and admire your passion in pursuing your dream.

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  17. CYC
    Nov 15, 2010 @ 11:32:05

    A nation that out educates us today will out competes us tomorrow. – Barrack Obama.

    We are going down hill if we fail to address the decline in our education standard. But we should not ape Singapore’s system as it produced only professionals without holistic passion in life.

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  18. jughead
    Nov 15, 2010 @ 22:02:14

    It was years ago when LKY was addressing NUS student. It will never happen in Malaysia but LKY was a leader of the nation – telling, guiding advising them which NEVER happen in Malaysia which the leaders always talk different things to different groups.
    Singapore has move away from the British System and encourage students to spent sometime away in American or Chinese Universities. that is why NUS and Polytechnics have close links with US and Chinese counterpart.
    Asian students are unlike the western counterparts because of competition, they are very focus. The western tends to take things easy

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  19. AgreeToDisagree
    Nov 16, 2010 @ 04:47:29

    Idealism without practical consideration is destined to fail.

    1) What do you see from your vantage point that I am missing? When people speak thus, they are either generalizing or see something we don’t.

    Elitism can’t save the world as it detach with the real world we live in.

    2) Ethics isn’t really elitism, without adherence to best practices and a sense of idealism – especially in governance itself, everything becomes ‘chabalang’.

    Anyhow, I respect and admire your passion in pursuing your dream.

    3) Just making the most of my time as everyone should. I might as well be dead if I don’t and I’ll be a spent force in a few decades if I do not accrue the ethos Dr.Hsu has by then. Sad to say Dr.Hsu does not consider himself viable though he is far more than most of us at this point in time or might be in the future. He needs someone to encourage him, but it certainly is not likely to be posters on this forum.

    should not ape Singapore’s system as it produced only professionals without holistic passion in life.

    4) Singapore’s education system is mediocre and as you observed, not holistic at all, even though meritocracy appears to be what they live by. It is in fact an elitist system that intentionally creates an underclass out of students who do not fit into the ‘unthinking lapdog’ mould. I was there for awhile and there is absolutely no possibility of upward trend there at all, but ONLY – and scarily – DOWNWARD due to limited space and access as well as monopolies and nepotism.

    Malaysia is far better worth investing time and energy in, and here I am trying to make it more livable. Every person counts, and can make a difference, what else is there otherwise to do as a human being once a certain comfort level or security has been reached?

    Be greedy and oppressive or accept apartheid?

    To qualify one’s reason for existence is the hardest thing to do, for that most of the world appears to be ‘living lives of quiet desperation’ when in fact government has the power to end much of this by distribution of land or wealth via utopian ‘socialist caps on wealth’ laws or such . . .

    Google “20 Million” and “Utopia”, some ideas on my facebook group.

    I’d say this would catch on though not fast enough, and people are very much ready to exemplify though others sit on the fence too long to make any difference. Those in a place of dignity and with the resources, MOVE NOW – for time is precious and wasting away!

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  20. Rhan
    Nov 16, 2010 @ 08:52:28

    ATM

    Sometimes I don’t know how to put forward my contention as your writing lead me to believe that your outlook of life is either black or white. I can’t say you are wrong, and at the same time, I yet find a word that suits your line of reasoning. The ‘so be it’ attitude sound similar to ‘my way’ and you know whose favorite song is that, and exactly like
    ‘never mind what the people think’. I am not sure how we could reconcile this posture with democracy and social equality.

    For instance in education, your stance is meritocracy, I agree but I don’t think it can be done so easily and that straight forward, not many would buy the ‘so be it’ attitude and politically, the weaker group could easily vote you out as most of the time, they outnumber the elite and technocrat. Unless we are willing to support the dictatorship style that allow the smart lead the ‘commoners’ which are the main ideal of Singapore so called meritocracy model. But in fact like what mentioned by ATD, Singapore lean towards nepotism and their merit call is merely a marketing trick, their most establish product branding is perhaps bread, other than this, zilch.

    You may adore LGE of what he did but I can’t relate him or DAP to meritocracy, like CYC, I don’t wish to talk much about DAP at this point of time and reserve it for future if PR finally become the people’s choice. A simple question, can LGE ‘so be it’ and select another Chinese to be his deputy? I don’t like LGE because I don’t think he is eligible for the CM post, his speech and behavior is more like a kiddo, no depth and sound stupid most of the time, but he has a ‘great’ dad.

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  21. Rhan
    Nov 16, 2010 @ 09:42:52

    jughead,

    You agree with him? Good. You don’t mind if the government dictate where you live, what school you attend, what language you speak and what media you should read and watch? Then perhaps you should stand along with the Umno rightist and bla bla bla your way to that dreamland.

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  22. jughead
    Nov 16, 2010 @ 20:49:45

    In Singapore where can you live and how many highway can you travel with directions? Can you be a planter, pig breeder, singer for a population of a few million or prefer to be Michelle Yeoh – in HK and tap into a vast China market.

    You think like UMNO in the well.

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  23. Dr Hsu
    Nov 17, 2010 @ 09:04:58

    I received an email from a reader about Ah Beng’s version of Singapore History. I think it must be written by Sinagporean. I will post it just for laugh and no other intention of belittling anyone or jacking anyone:

    Ah Beng talks about Singapore History & Current Affairs…( Those who know Hokkien will understand better)

    Under the ‘Ang Mo’ we all live happily together, no complain.
    Malaysia & Singapore is one big family in our brains.
    One day we both like two durians cannot get along.
    Got sharp thorns, poke each other until ‘Buay Song’
    One moment like brothers, can give and take.
    Next moment we kena kicked out by the leg.
    Wah! Our towkay also cry like mad,
    We all also feel very very sad.
    Our neigbours all say, ‘Wah they all sure to die!
    They got nothing, how to get next bowl of rice?’
    So ‘Boh Pian,’ we all work day and night.
    We also join the army so that we can fight.
    We don’t care others ‘see us no up’.
    But actually inside we very pain in the heart.
    Then slowly hor we grow rich and a bit fat.
    Now others talk about us also got some respect.
    They scratch their heads and say ‘Very funny!
    Got nothing how come they can still make money?’

    Last time also got no money to buy ice-cream cone.
    Nowadays even small kids can also afford handphone.
    Seaport, airport also can become Number One.
    He! He! Sometimes think about it also very fun.
    But some people look at us also not happy.
    Actually they jealous don’t want to say only.
    So every time their country got something wrong.
    They all say Singapore’s behind it all along.
    Everybody know we water no enough.
    They turn off tap only we all cannot last.

    They threaten us with water supply and shout ‘Cut! Cut! Cut!’
    Aiyoh! They all think the water is one big ketupat.
    We all hear already also Buay Tahan’
    Wah liao, they think we small can makan!
    But now they ‘cow pay cow bu’ we all not very scared.
    We want to build water desalination plant already so not so bad.
    But their own economy now all go bust.
    Got to sell water otherwise money no enough.
    Then another neighbor say Singapore no friend friend,
    Got so much money, a bit more also donno how to lend.

    They say we all only one small red dot,
    Like the center of a big dartboard.
    Maybe they think we mouse and they cat,
    That’s why they suka suka anyhow talk like that.
    But we all still send them a lot of rice.
    Show the world we actually very very nice.
    Sometimes we ‘Cho Ho Sim’ also kena whack.
    But we all gentleman wan, don’t want to fight back.
    I think hor maybe they don’t understand us very well.
    That’s why relationship sometimes like heaven sometimes like hell
    Some say aiyah our prosperity is all due to luck,
    That’s why we all ‘Siao Siao’ can still win the Tiger Cup
    I think hor, Singapore is like Chilli Padi in a pot –
    Size small small but still very very hot.

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  24. A true Malaysian
    Nov 17, 2010 @ 10:33:26

    Rhan,

    ‘An Beng’ story tells the facts, i.e. Black and White that had happened and are happening since the day both neighbours broke up and go different ways from thereon.

    If the other neighbour who ‘see them no up’ then, now they ‘see us no up’. Can you still deny this black and white?

    So if many of us still have the attitude of ‘jealous don’t want to say only’ and ‘every time our country got something wrong, we all say Singapore’s behind it all along’ (in short, refuse to recognise black is black, white is white), if I still say ‘so be it’, can I regard myself as ‘patriotic’?

    Come on Rhan, if we still have a lot of ‘buts’ and ‘ifs’ as excuses not to adopt meritocracy, and at the same time ‘Cho Ho Sim’ to help out the less able, this Ah Beng story will still be true for many generations to come. By then, we may need to depend Singapore for water.

    Sigh!!! Come to think of it, perhaps Ah Beng is true to say this, Under the ‘Ang Mo’ we all live happily together, no complain. How nice if we can be like that, and I hope Pakatan can do that when come to power.

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  25. jughead
    Nov 17, 2010 @ 13:34:09

    Critics here only how to denounce and bring out the flaws of different governments. It looks as though they have better solution and better ways of governing.

    If they have better ideas and method, why don’t they stand for election or at least be a councillor and see how they manage it.

    See even not all military Generals can perform well and victories are at great cost of live and we expect politicans to do even better?

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  26. cilipadi
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 09:51:32

    “I think hor, Singapore is like Chilli Padi in a pot –
    Size small small but still very very hot.”

    I like this ending conclusion.

    Singapore makan cili, Malaysia rasa pedas

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  27. Rhan
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 10:14:04

    Stupid Beng is exactly like the daft Umno supporters here in Malaysia, learn only the version of history wrote by their master, equally inane. No wonder they look highly towards one of the most authoritarian government in the world.

    No wonder PAP/Umno makan cili, the daft/slave rasa pedas.

    孺子不可教也

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  28. Rhan
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 10:22:40

    While we talk about issue of human and civil rights, some could only see highway direction, pig and Michelle. Is that why they pick Singapore as their model of aspiration? Something to do with intelligence capacity eh?

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  29. cilipadi
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 10:33:59

    If white = pedas, black = no pedas

    to some fella here,

    white = no pedas, black = pedas, Umno = PAP

    PAP makan cili, PAP rasa pedas
    Umno makan cili, Umno rasa no pedas

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  30. Rhan
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 11:02:11

    Jughead,

    So what is your suggested better solution? Read again LHL speech: “Singapore’s survival and progress depends crucially on its having a strong government. The only advantage which our tiny size …”. Don’t you find it very UMNOish, you may just change some of the name and words and bingo, we had enjoyed similar phrase for the past 53 years.

    My message is a simple one, we don’t want a ‘strong’ government. So ask anyone with similar thought to get lost.

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  31. Tpg2Sg
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 17:18:35

    Rhan,

    ‘Strong’ governmnet is OK if they(PAP or UMNO) cakap serupa bikin & LHL speech is OK if he repeat the same speech even thought to difference kind of audiences @ difference places & “Walk the Talk”

    Umno leader & Dr Apanama seem to like shift their position when talking to diffence audiences.

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  32. Rhan
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 17:55:57

    Tpg2sg

    So the next question is what made you a ‘strong’ one? And how you let your people to judge and assess you thoroughly if you walk the talk and cakap serupa begin? Perhaps you don’t even need to shift the position that often as long as you can sue the dissent into broke or just lock them up?

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  33. A true Malaysian
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 20:08:49

    Why argue at strong or weak. Look at black & white to judge a government. That’s better, right?

    One government emphasizes on meritocracy while the other one not. That alone makes a lot of difference.

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  34. jughaed
    Nov 18, 2010 @ 22:45:39

    Again someone is thinking like UMNO in the well. The article Dr Hsu highlighted is about the progress.

    If you want about human and civil rights, go on and press for legalisation of gay marriage like Australian MPs wanted or the rights of defacto partnerships. That covers human and civil rights.

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  35. sosong
    Nov 22, 2010 @ 17:26:49

    I was studying in Singapore 1973 to 1977, Never in my wildest dream would think this is possible. Malaysia had 450+ land area n 5 times population, how come?

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