The essence of freedom of speech

PAS No.2 was charged in court today.

Whether this has got the approval of PM, or this is just the action from the Home Ministry or AG , I don’t know.

What I do know is that this runs contrary to what PM’s promise to give the people more freedom, which must include freedom of speech.

Whether we agree with Mat Sabu or not is immaterial, we all must defend his right to say what he has said.

That is the essence of freedom of speech.

24 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. monsterball
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 15:47:26

    Najib said…..Malaysia will be the most democratic country in the world…after ISA is abolish.
    And few days later….freedom of speech is not allowed.
    Each UMNO b Minister is showing their full power…doing what they think is best for the party…. to be chosen for 13th GE.
    The UMNO b kingpins…are in control…not Najib.

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  2. streetfighter
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 16:11:36

    Dr Hsu,we will never achieve freedom of speech as long BN is still the power that be.Umno/BN will never change as any changes for better will reduce their grip on power to rule the Rakyat like a fool.I am all out to fight against all odds like what you said..inspite of the biased election process we are already moving nearer to the goal post of Putrajaya so lets cast our votes come GE13 for a truly change of freedom of speech and rights of citizens.No boycott otherwise there will be lesser freedom of everything when BN with 2/3 majority will have the final say.

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  3. Observer
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 16:33:57

    Freedom of speech so long as one doesnt defame another. Isn’t that is always the case?

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  4. Li Li Fa
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 16:34:57

    Our PM promised that ours will the best democracy in the world after ISA has been repealed; and attracted so many applauds locally and even outside the country.

    He must be beaming from ear to ear, and trying to be cool to the younger set who are potential voters in the coming GE.

    What is baffling is that an incident that happened 61 years ago can became a topic of disdain to the incumbents. The people do not know what exactly the other 2 new laws are going to be?

    Even if there is freedom of speech, does it jive with the words and deeds of the man at the helm of this nation?

    Speaking is so easy but action is another thing.

    Is it a situation of one hand doesn’t know what the other is doing?

    Meanwhile, the applauds keep coming.

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  5. monsterball
    Sep 21, 2011 @ 20:10:50

    When Najib announced the abolishing of ISA..his Deputy said his boss is cool.
    Najib coolly announced he will testify at Anwar’s sodomy case…and not backed off.
    Now he backed off…Anwar rubbed it in…..saying how cool can that be…changing his mind all the time.
    Never heard the soft spoken…keDAILan President…Anwar’s wife.. Wan Azizah talk about Najib’s coolness….so direct .so blunt.
    There you see…Najib never keep his promises at all…and on ISA….someone said….not to take it with pinch of salt…..but a bucket full of salt.

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  6. Phua Kai Lit
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 08:35:16

    Those whom the UMNO/BN regime go after (on the flimsiest of charges)
    are the ones they fear most.

    Real abuse of the power of the state. Stalinist-type show trials.

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  7. Rhan
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 08:44:57

    Not a bad thing, this is a trial to test where Malaysian stand, are we ready to forget the past or we keep silence and let the the taboo haunt us forever.

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  8. sally
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:17:55

    It is an exact opposite of the 1509 speech. That is no small distinction.

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  9. Rhan
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 10:32:19

    Observer the great nonpartisan pusher (or I am wrong?), touché. But not really sure what exactly is your point and in what context, care to articulate?

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  10. klm
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 12:11:31

    Even before his cool image can settle down, he is back to his vicious conniving lying self.

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  11. monsterball
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 14:10:41

    He is a compulsive liar….a disease like a kleptomaniac…incurable.
    More and more of UMNO b supporters are leaving …to vote for change.
    Najib have the distinction to be the only PM … having a ghost following him.
    He is done for.
    He knows it.
    That’s why 13th GE ..he said ..”around the corner” is such a long corner to cover.
    He will never be an elected PM.
    “N” is the end of RAHMAN.

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  12. monsterball
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 14:19:14

    People Power is real and fearless….growing larger and not like Najib’s supporters…..shrinking and shrinking.
    People Power want change of government.
    Najib latest stunt…ISA will not work.
    He maybe cool …announcing it…like Mahathir crying …so cool too.
    Both are waiting Judgement Day….bringing along sons..brothers and relatives…more cronies..all to court for corruptions soon.

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  13. monsterball
    Sep 22, 2011 @ 16:42:02

    If Najib is not a compulsive liar…then he has a serious split personality problem…just like Rhan…and badly brought up…or pampered to the extreme…just like Rhan.. who does not know the differences between right or wrong.
    Najib disgraces Malay cultures….going to the mosque to fool Allah.
    Rhan disgraces the Chinese culture in so many ways.
    Rhan is a nobody…but I thought the comparison will give young readers..to understand better.

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  14. Phua Kai Lit
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 08:18:50

    Zambia shows the way.
    It is possible to defeat
    a corrupt incumbent regime through mobilising the people.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-15029463

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  15. Kenny
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 10:22:01

    The regime sometimes makes mistakes in the battle for public perception. Detaining the PSM 6 under EO was a big mistake. Charging Mat Sabu is another one.

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  16. klm
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 11:59:20

    MI: Undilah video taken off-air over Ku Li speech, opposition figures. This is the real Najib. Not his artificial cool image. Repealing ISA is just hogwash.

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  17. Observer
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 15:47:34

    Hi Rhan, surely everyone has their rights provided such rights doesn’t affect another’s rights. If in exercising your rights to freedom of speech you sully the reputation of another, surely you can’t hide behind your rights when the injured party were to take an action against you.

    The issue now is whether the statement made by Mat Sabu amounts to criminal defamation. I don’t know.

    There must be some level of independance be given to the relevant authorities and arms of the government to act. Rightly or wrongly, if the Police or the AG so believes an offence has been committed, these bodies should do their job as mandated by the law. To require the politicians to interfere, is not healthy for our country. Clearly, we can’t expect all the decisions of the various bodies within the Government have to obtain the decision of the PM – otherwise nothing can move in this country.

    Let the case go to court. After both sides have presented their case, let the court decide and such decision is available for all to see.

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  18. Rhan
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 17:47:31

    Hi Observer,

    Well said. Generally I agree with you, moreover, we shall keep in mind that free speech has it limit and not absolute, thus everyone is held accountable by their action, and their words as well. You are also right to say that we can’t expect all the decisions of the various bodies within the Government have to obtain the decision of the PM, and I am sure Hsu would agree with you pertaining to this.

    If I read correctly, the short article on frees speech is particularly referring to MS and not apply across in broad sense, and that is why Hsu mention “PAS No.2 was charged in court today. Whether this has got the approval of PM, or this is just the action from the Home Ministry or AG , I don’t know.” I believe his “I don’t know” and your “I don’t know” have similar connotation, and the essence of free speech as mentioned shall be correlated back to MS and Najib promise.

    Since we are all Malaysian, we have to conform to both the governed law and our social mores, I am not lawyer so I can only refer to the article by Art Harun whether the AG action is justifiable from solely the legal perspective, which I am certain you have read, and similar to you, I have to say likewise I don’t know.

    However from a layman point of view, we shall bear in mind that MS is a politician, and I think he is not wrong to have his opinion toward a historical person or event, his interpretation could be not align to our social mores at present but to charged him in court for what he said about history seem to me is overblown, regardless if the judge found MS guilty or not, it is the people view that is become relevant now, they are actually the judge.

    But the most sadden part is we again make use of our judiciary to ‘resolve’ a political issue, don’t you think it is a waste of time and taxpayer money?

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  19. monsterball
    Sep 23, 2011 @ 19:41:34

    Well said Rhan and it could be much better…if you have some manners and address Dr. Hsu as what he is..a doctor and not an ordinary person like you and me.
    Why is that so difficult for you to do?
    The other way to read the post is we must defend freedom of speech at all cost..be it from Mat Sabu or anyone else charged for giving his opinions.
    We have seen enough how UMNO b shut mouths for decades.
    When one Muslim comes out to point out distorted historical facts or half truth told….it is the sign…..race and religion politics is dying…and that bothers UMNO b most.
    You can leave it to Mahathir twisting..saying Govt should not charge Mat Sabu…as what he said….got Police and Military personnel ….hoping mad..thus will vote against PAS in Kelantan. .
    That’s all he cares…how to corner votes…and not talk about what Mat Sabu said were true or false and give the details.
    He cannot….for Mat Sabu is right.

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  20. monsterball
    Sep 24, 2011 @ 01:00:57

    I wonder is there two Rhans in this blog?
    Just read “Do or Die” comments from Rhan and compare it to this one..totally different person.

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  21. Ellese
    Sep 25, 2011 @ 05:35:51

    Though I think MS statement is impudent insulting idiotic and downright wrong, I’m for his right to free speech. Though I can agree that this freedom must come with responsibility, ie should not defame, I have reservation whether AG should proceed with criminal defamation. Though it’s clear that many in army/security force are extremely upset, (even dap Tunku Aziz saying MS is wrong), unless it boils over as a security issue, the best remedy for situation like this for the security personnel should be a democratic one ie kick MS out.

    I know there are thousands of police reports lodge that the police have to take cognizant, but my main issue would be selective application of it. If AG wishes to proceed in this manner it has to apply consistently. And in this Internet age there’s so much you can prosecute. Say Manoharan who insulted our national flag (saying we should not wave national flag as it resembles bn component parties flag. how I don’t know?). Is Ag to prosecute him as well? it’s still free speech based on false and misleading information like MS. some may even say AG should take action on the historians professor. (but I think it’s more difficult as there’s justification defense ie based on facts.) then we get into this selective application problem?

    Best thing to do at this moment is to roundly criticize them. Tell them it’s off limits.

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  22. monsterball
    Sep 25, 2011 @ 05:58:52

    Ellese….Mat Sabu is intelligent and brave to expose half baked history books put out in schools…by UMNO b government.
    Have you ever wonder why….Bukit Kapong film showed only Chinese Communist fighting the British and Malays Regiment….and not one Malay communist?

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  23. Ellese
    Sep 25, 2011 @ 08:14:07

    Can you explain why in the world you regard the 200 people who is led by mat indera and who killed unarmed innocent women and children as your pejuang kemerdekaan? None of them ever believe in 57 independence. From Malaysian perspective how can you say they’re your pejuang kemerdekaan? Dont parrot purely based on partisanship. Just give one reason why?

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  24. monsterball
    Sep 25, 2011 @ 11:41:04

    Where did you get that informations??….in Malaysian U history books?
    All I want t say to you is that….without the help of the communists…57 Independence maybe…60 and thousands of Malaysians may die ..not 200 and perhaps you will see hundreds of bastard child born too.

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