What transformation?

When a school boy comes back with  persistent poor grades, what any parent must do is to find out what is wrong; whether the boy understands his lessons, whether he puts in enough time to study and learn the things taught, and whether there is anything wrong in his way of studying if enough time has been put in and still he gets persistent poor grade. Once a fault is detected, there must be will power to correct it, and then the grade will slowly but surely improve.

Only a very indulgent and bad parent would blame the marking system or the school instead of his own boy, if over the years, markings by different teachers come to the same results.

This is what is happening here (Read this report: Pemandu blames new measurement method for poorer score). We are further and further down in the Corruption Perception Index. We have put in GTP, ETP and what have you, but all these transformations do not seem to work; rather, corruption has perceived to become worse, whether it is according to this international index, or just by asking any Ah Pek in the street.

One glaring issue is that very few big fish are caught and charged. When the top gets away, those-near -to-the-top,  those-further-below-the-top, and those who are way-below-the-top would all try to get corrupted. Afterall, who does not want easy fast money?

When people can get away from taking a big government loan to do a certain project, but instead use part of the money for something else, it will send a signal that all it matters in this country is connection and  position. Others having similar position or connection would want to emulate.

The authority may say there is  nothing wrong, but ask the people in the street, they have already formed  their opinion based on common morality pratice . They  will probably shake their heads and sigh, as a sign of helplessness to tackle this type of abuse.

You can have the best brains and the best plans to transform, but they will not work as long as this culture remains. When the top beam is crooked, how to expect the lower beams to be straight, even if they want to? Transformation would not work unless it is from the very top to the very bottom…..

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Just imagine that a company with many shareholders  gives you a loan to start a chicken farm, and instead you use the money to buy cars and house, and when the auditor of the company points this out to the company shareholders, and the shareholders wanted to know why, you scream in a public forum as if you are the one who is the aggrieved party, and you blame the company, the auditor and the shareholders for doing this to you, why is the logic, where is the moral, where is common courtesy?

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56 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. Camelot
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 13:27:39

    You are right Dr.

    It is always the fault of others. UMNO & BN are beyond reproach.

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  2. son of muhammad
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 13:51:32

    The UMNO MUNAFIKS will eventually destroy Boleh Land.

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  3. BeWildered
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 15:14:33

    This is kind practice is nothing new, except, there is Internet, and blogging which is beyond government control, hence the voice of protest become pervasive than in the 80s. Also, the nation’s wealth has been drained to the noticeable level.
    PBS in USA did a research on what lead to Arab Srping in Egypt, and all evidence point to cronyistic capitalism, where cronies of Mubarak got all the per hand in government money and the country resources and the ordinary farmers were deprived of even water to irrigate their farms because water is channeled to the cash crop farm of the cronies, hence, tens of thousands of farmers lost their land and have to become laborers to earn the minimum living and their lives are without hope prepects. Same for factory wokers.
    Malaysia has tons of cronyist capitalism. The NCF is justmtip of the iceberg.

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  4. klm
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 16:20:35

    What transformation? I dont see any. It just got worse. Pemandu like all bad workman, it just blame the tool.

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  5. CYC
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 17:49:03

    The route towards becoming a winnable candidate — corrupt your supporters.

    It seems in Malaysia’s politics, winning is the paramount objective irrespective whether the candidates are sincere to serve or just want to make themselves rich.

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  6. A true Malaysian
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:07:30

    This is a case of all machinery within a democracy are being used to cover the so-called ‘elected’ leaders’ crimes and immoral acts (a lot of them not even elected but through back-doors and favouritism). How to be ‘transformed’ then?

    Put it bluntly, all in the government, in different degrees, are thieves and criminals, and they tell rakyat they are serious in transformation. Is this possible?

    Vote them out of the government is the only option left. Even then, they possibly cannot be reformed as their people already there in all machinery. We can only hope there are still many good people in there so that, if Pakatan take over the government, these people are there to help in reform the machinery. If not, Malaysia is on fast track to be another third word country like Egypt, Libya, Zimbabwe……

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  7. CYC
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 21:12:52

    We still believe BN is the best option no matter what as corruption and is but a small issue blown out of proportion by the opposition –MCA n Gelakan’s official statement dated 2011 Dec.

    Show me the evidence that BN is corrupt –Pornstar challenges LKS and Anwar without putting on his underwear.

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  8. disgusted
    Dec 02, 2011 @ 22:18:11

    Pemandu’s perverted logic and blame is exactly what we learn from the proverb, “The bad workman blames his tools”. That’s diplomatic a saying. More realistically, it should be this: “Cannot shit blames the ground is hard”. As to transformation, I think it is more like “deformation”. leopards die with their spots.

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  9. Nick
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 09:36:35

    Dr. Hsu, your analogy about a chicken farm is spot on. You have the nack for putting points across. Everyone of us have a moral compass. There are things which are “black” and things which are “white”. What is happening on the NFC scandal is serious and beckons for justice. When we see how the wanita umno behaves, it goes to show the umno party has completely “lost it”. It seems $$ can indeed blind so many not to see the criminal acts for what they really are. What a shallow bunch of people. No amount of screaming and blaming others can do away with the wrongful actions.

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  10. Dr Hsu
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 10:44:06

    Nick
    I bleive this is just the tip of the iceberg.

    As I have said, many in similar positions and with similar connections are doing the samething with projects. Whatever projects conceived is not for the benefits of the people, but more for the benefits of certain interest. So the grander the project, the better since the interested parties will have ore to gain.

    And when public knows about this, they will practice a much used tactic– you cover my back, i cover yours, or more colloquially, you scracth my back I scratch yours.

    The Chinese have a proverb for this: Kuan Kuan Xiang Hu… meaning every official no matter big or small will try to cover up for their colleagues. That is what is happening now, among the top, among the enforcement agencies, among the lower ranks too.. Only when there is a power struggle will some of these things leaked out and people abandon this principle and going for each other’s throat.

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  11. Nick
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 11:00:08

    If this wanita chief retained her post and go on to contest lembah pantai head-to-head against the rising starlet, my bet is she will be obliterated. I really hope that she will be the candidate of choice, umno’s “winnable”. PR will be so so thrill to go into GE13 with this corrupted condo-merc-cow.

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  12. Dr Hsu
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 11:07:47

    Nick
    COming at this time, it is almost like a godsend for PR.. They will load it up as their bullets and spray this info into the rural areas. I wonder how long can those staying in rural area ‘tahan’ all these pilferings?

    It has made the next GE a very interesting one, no side is 100% sure of winning.

    The infighting in SUPP menas that the Chinese majority seats in Sarawak is unsafe. Couple this with the promise that ‘Pek Mo” will retire (made during the last state election) but still around, Sarawak will see PR make some inroads.

    If more of these are digged up, rest assured that election will not be called next few months..In the meantime,this sort of abuse will increase since everyone want a piece before the show ends.

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  13. CYC
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 11:44:59

    They will intensify their act to convert more immigrants to become legitimate voters and the coming GE is dirty and tough. So, tackling the Felda settlers seems to be the most viable strategy for PR. UMNO has give up hope on MCA to deliver Chinese votes. Hence, they fire up the issue of DAP trying to create a republic and Malays will lose all the rights under PR because of DAP just to scare off Malay .

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  14. mmc
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 13:06:34

    UMNO = CORRUPTION

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  15. Li Li Fa
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 14:20:49

    It is interesting to note that not one day passes without new negative development in the umNO political arena. Their recent general assembly was a charade of sort that falls short of handling out academy awards.

    Let us recap the screen exerpts.

    The main actor, Jibby stole the show with his thunderous condemnation of the opposition parties and that his party is the sole architect.of naton building.

    His deputy also stole some of the thunder by denying that umNO was never racist and in his heart and mind, one race comes first.

    The female chief scored classic points over the Youth camp, by her great transformation acting skill, turning from a leader of the fairer sex group into a scornful, acid-tongued and pathetic cowherdess.

    This is the likes of the ruling party ala umNO. One cannot immagine what actors will arise from other component parties of the LineUp.

    On a positive note, all these will prove to the world that a one-party system will no longer work in this nation that all Malaysians love.

    With the coming 13GE trudging surely down our way, all like-minded Malaysians should exercise their constitutional right to usher in a new dawn for the nation, a sort of Malaysian Spring symbolizing a sleepy dragon awakening and rising to its destined calling.

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  16. Phua Kai Lit
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 15:15:17

    Nothing wrong with the govt, the leadership, and its policies.

    It’s all the fault of the people who listen to malcontents and troublemakers
    and their blogs.

    No need to change the govt — just change the people!
    Ship out all the malcontents and troublemakers and Malaysia will be
    a developed nation by 2020! Malaysia Boleh! (under our Dear Leader the PM.
    After all, Dr M could not be wrong, could he?)

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  17. Ellese
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 22:16:25

    I think it’s fair for you to complain about government questioning the criteria. But thought it’s unfair for you to complain etp gtp are not working. Our problem again is partisanship and compounded by unobjective media of MSM and Alternative media. MSM only highlight good of bn and the bad of opposition and the AM the bad of bn and the good of PR. On one hand we have Utusan and the other the like of Malaysian insider both are spinning half truth and propaganda.
    Let’s take etp of mrt for example. What’s so wrong with this? What about etp on education and infrastructure? Why benefit for most not good? Rather than condemning we should support to make it work. But problem is skewered partisanship is blinding us to be objective. We’ve lost our moral compass in being consistent and principled.

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  18. monsterball
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 22:24:17

    Mumbo jumbo ..throwing fishes…..asking all to catch…catch ..catch has started again..by Ellese.

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  19. Hanprem
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 22:34:53

    Absolutely! the government is never at fault. It’s the “misinformed” and ungrateful people who cause all the trouble to the BN government . They are the ones at fault and they are wrong in voicing concerns of the “good” deeds carried out by the government. They should be like ever obedient MCA and Geraka fellows who look up to BN government (read UMNO) as role model and accept what is being dished out to them without asking any questions.

    After all, BN government can do no wrong.

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  20. CYC
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 22:38:47

    what transformation when the main governing party opening asking for favour in their AGM? Now u see how low can we stoop yet claiming partisanship caused all these problem. nothing wrong with mrt, its the corrupt aspect stupid.

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  21. CYC
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 22:39:37

    U must be a member OWC.

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  22. A true Malaysian
    Dec 03, 2011 @ 23:59:45

    UMNO = U Must Not Object, Untuk Melayu Nyanyok Otak

    See the way they conducted themselves in their recent annual assembly, you see the equation above. Mind you, there are more prominent ‘Malays’ by Constitution definition than the ethnic Malays showing off during the assembly. They are good in Tamil as well. Perhaps this is why they claimed others are more racist than them or perhaps Bung Mokhtar is the best among the worst. They were not debating actually but were clowning around. Mampuslah Malaysia jika Umno masih jadi tukang belakang politik Malaysia selepas 13th GE.

    PAS, PKR and DAP have much more matured quality debates over policy matters than what we see in UMNO.

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  23. Ellese
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 10:57:53

    Dont understand why some have to resort to insults and name calling.

    Why not like this. We be more objective.Both parties have put forth their plans and ideals. Why don’t we measure and compare the Buku jingga and etp/nkra. We look into the proposed budget by both to see who has policy which we want our nation to move forward. Many would realize later we have been too partisan to be fair to the detriment of our nation.

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  24. monsterball
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 11:27:12

    Don’t understand this…don’t understand that…….and starts all over gain.
    Don’t understand…yet can advise others what to do.
    Smart ass tell all not to be partisan….thus keep all your votes open…don’t jump to conclusion….lets discuss more…bla ..bla.. bla.
    To agree and disagree….once again ….and not FOR or AGAINST.
    Same old tactic…same old style…..to make this blog commentators and readers look stupid.
    All commentators and readers have made up their minds.
    Blog owner have put out post after post…and all read…knows he also has made up his mind.
    But Ellese thinks she is smarter than blog owner and all.
    Najib telling Malaysians…”Trust me. Anwar telling lies”
    Ellese is saying…”Trust me. Listen and follow me.”
    But I say…Ellese is purposely talking nonsense in this blog…for this blog can convert UMNO b voters to support PR….and so upset it…put out long long nonsensical comments and chase readers away.

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  25. monsterball
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 11:33:59

    Now she will complaint to blog owner…monsterball call her “smart ass”…using vulgar words.
    Can she do the same?

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  26. mmc
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:40:00

    monsterball,

    to some,latest condo and cows are half-truths spin by PR. Its just RM250m and its worth spin-a-fortune to ensure regular supply of beef. Try some of the premium beef at Meatworks and you may agree that its just a PR spin

    RM500m commission with a C4 kapum is a fantasy spin by PR

    PKFZ RM12.5b white elephant is outlandish sum inflated by PR.

    Lets have ETP and viola all you see are PR spins.

    Darn, I pay my taxes and they consume it with glee and after that they call me Pendatang. Thats also a PR spin in association with Perkasa, no? Lets allow 1Malaysia to work alongside “Melayu First and Malaysia Second”. Its consistent and good for the nation while PR about equality is to gather votes.

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  27. mmc
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 12:47:45

    monsterball,

    what a transformation from UMNO at their latest assembly.

    DAP’ christian exco members are agents of changes. Its too ugly to even mention here what the changes. Guess its half-truths from PR again, Then again, may be a magic from ETP will transform everything back to normal as if nothing has happened or spoken. Thats the beauty of a PR oops is it UMNO spin?

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  28. Dr Hsu
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 14:34:31

    telling me that economy transformation would not be affected by corruption, wastage and abuses is like Hitler telling the world that he is the saviour. now, who is being partisan? even BN n UMNO leaders` are privately admitting that this is a big mistake. Hundreds of millions here, hundreds of millions there, billions here, billions there, all these add up to the reason why we have not achieved our true potential.

    it is like a robber telling others that he/she is a good person, he robs because the victim is bad. Such logic, only a paid gun can spin.

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  29. mmc
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 15:58:46

    dr hsu,

    they are all in the game to plunder as much as they can. forget transformation. didnt he promise open tenders? yes, unless its his cronies. look at the Convention Centre deal. Its preposterous for the govt to sell the land at depressed price for a convention centre. and the Minister has the temerity to tell us its a good deal because the govt is gonna get the covention centre for free. can you beat that? guess, thats a truly transformed way to cover a sweetheart deal at the expense of the public, To rub salt to wound, the great Jala tells us get rid of subsidies else the country will go bankrupt.
    Sorry, there goes PR spin again. ETP, PPP, DAP, KKP and all the 3-worded acronyms are the answer to all woes.

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  30. CYC
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 18:06:33

    A spinster telling us that she was not raped but the rapist merely wanted to get someone to satisfy his sexual needs and she just happened to be the right object. That sum up the logic of her argument. Weird ? why not as long as it sounds logical to the “right reader or audience “. Dr Hsu, you must do a survey if there is any in this blog. Perhaps she epitomes the brains we have now that helm the driver seat of GLCs.

    There is no clone of KTK here kow-towing to spin guru foolishly. If u want to look for soh h*i like him, go to Gelakan party official website and u find plentiful. Thousand apology for using such uncivilised word but no choice.

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  31. Ellese
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 22:39:40

    Dear doc,

    I did say your comment on the complain was fair. Please refer again. What was not fair was to say ALL etp nkra ate not working. I am not paid a single sen. No one in bn knows me. Just ask around. Nil. It’s my view. My own view. And I thought it’s an over the board statement.
    All I ask was to be objective. Someone here argued that pr policy was much better. So fine. And I ask us to compare what’s planned by both bn and pr. Why is this so objectionable? If pr is so good pro pr supporter can easily thumbed down bn.
    What I don’t understand is the close mind to analyse and articulate it. I tell you doc I have yet to encounter a pr supporter who can articulate why Buku jingga is superior to etp and nkra. So too with pro bn supporter vice versa. People seem to have a closed mind to evaluate and assess. I don’t comprehend this. I can understand blind unthinking supporter resorting to name calling but can’t fathom why I thought many thinking person refuses to do so.
    I tell you my beef. I think we need to move to the middle. We need to know what is good for us articulate it and demand it out. Not merely who says what. Your write many a times shows you are level headed. But many are not unable to distinguish what’s common good and what’s not.
    Let me take an example. Recently EU announced a standby credit of multi billion pounds to stabilize EURO. If you can recall it was what mahathir who call on Japan and east Asian countries during 98 crisis for this facility. At that time US was in total opposition with mahathir to the extent of discouraging Japan. It was argued it was wrong then by many to stabilize the currencies as such. But how come a similar act in europe is deemed by US and investors as the right way forward when it was wrong ealier. This to me is utter hypocrisy.
    But back to the issue. Because of our partisanship we will be arguing until the cows come home to raise this standby facility if this happens. As is some pr supporters are arguing that the call by mahathir then was showing were in big mess debt. We can’t see end objective. We just want to disagree for the sake of disagreement and venting out our hatred.
    Now this is where many are in. We need to take our own stand and course. It actually doesn’t matter whether bn policy is better than pr or vice versa. It’s what we think best. Thus you will see that none from pr and bn actually articulating a limit for indiscriminate direct handout in the budget. And policy becomes more Populist to the detriment of our nation. The debate on budget should be bn and pr should limit handout not based on income. But what we get is one party saying the other party making our country bankrupt when both went for deficit spending with indiscriminate handout. What have we become?

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  32. Ellese
    Dec 04, 2011 @ 22:49:32

    Dear doc,

    Posted my response a number of times earlier but did not appear. Are you in moderation mode or was my write too long?

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  33. Dr Hsu
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 09:20:31

    Ellese,
    your last comment went to the spam section (wordpress has a auotmatic spam detector), and after reading your 10.49pm comment, i went to retrieve it in Spam .

    I do not know why, but normally if it is too long, or if there is too much repetition or if there is more than 2 links, the spam detection software will automatically classfifed as spam..But normally once your comment is classified as spam,your email will be blackmarked, and your next email at 10.49pm should have been automatically sent to spam, but it was in the normal section waiting for my moderation. I just do not know why.

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  34. Ellese
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 10:40:46

    No worries doc. May be when it did not appear I resent it a few times again n t system regard it as spam. Thanks for t clarification.

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  35. klm
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 12:03:39

    The real story to the cows and condos. This was a departing gift to Sharizat. 250M soft loan with 4.5% interest and a 150M grant. She was to retire and let the Raja Nong Chik be the next candidate for Pantai constituency. Taxpayers money were give out for UMNO internal political purpose. This is even worst that the mishandling of the project.

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  36. monsterball
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 14:10:10

    Now my comment under moderation!!

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  37. monsterball
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 14:11:13

    It is short and to the point….but I guess Doc does not like what I wrote about him.

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  38. monsterball
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 14:26:58

    Doc’s selfishness and cunning personality unbelievable.
    Goodbye folks.

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  39. Dr Hsu
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 16:35:44

    Just because I did not publish some rubbish and name calling, Someone is calling me selfish.

    Good riddance!

    My regular readers will know that for many times, this blog has to go on moderation because of one person suddenly attacking others and thus causing havoc in the comment section so much s many readers have complained. Not a single time does not involve him.

    Just ask why?Why he needs to do that? As i have said, sometimes, the black face and the white face are from the same team, with the same purpose of disrupting normal reading.

    I welcome the goodbye!

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  40. CYC
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 17:36:44

    Dr, siege mentality on parade.

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  41. deetee
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 17:43:26

    “why[sic] is the logic, where is the moral, where is common courtesy?

    Dear Dr, If any of those exist in the ruling government ( UMNO/BN and Uncivil servants), Malaysia would indeed be paradise on Earth!

    By any standard, the way this country is being run, it is actually very shocking! How on earth can those people in authority defend what any layman would be able to tell is indefensible? And this is only the latest example of all that is going on.

    I do grieve for this country and its people.

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  42. HuaYong
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 18:20:40

    Ellese,

    I am okay with partisan view and I think it is normal (not the part on name calling and ad hominem attack) , the empirical evidence tell us that whichever blog we goes to, it is more or less same. The readers and commentators tend to read and comment on blog that share similar view, and most blog have difficulty to attract dissent or contrarian view from the other side, this happen in many blog and media that I read and visit, for instance even in the global context, most Chinese and Muslim believe NYT and The Economist were bias no matter how reputable they are.

    The question is what is the cause of such partisan stand in our local scene? The metric is to me a common and straight forward one, volume and impact. PR has less number of inconsistencies and at the same time, they are not at the federal level yet hence impact is much less, therefore I think it is logical to face less criticism. Pertaining to buku jingga and etp, it is actually very superficial to debate when most are at planning stage, hence the judgment is concentrated on moral context and past event, which I think Hsu is pretty fair to evaluate as such.

    PS/I hope readers will appreciate your view and debate on the issue you raised rather than worry about who you are.

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  43. Dr Hsu
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 18:43:22

    deetee

    it should be ‘where is the logic’,,,i made a mistake there.

    cheers.

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  44. A true Malaysian
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 21:38:26

    His ultimate target is (or was) you, not me. Calling you selfish and cunning. If in fact you selfish and cunning, then should we say those in Umno & BN selfless and transparent?

    This is a clear instance where Umno’s system has produced people without moral values that are clear what’s right and what’s wrong.

    Rhetorics over rhetorics are being played again and again to justify their wrongs, their crimes, and we see many people here ‘believing’ in Umno, rhetoricing we are partisan this and that. ‘We’ are the actual ones that with our moral fabric still intact. Not like they who are bought out by those rhetorics.

    They are more ‘rhetorician’ than ‘politician’ at the rate things are going. At least politicians accept defeats, not this brand of ‘rhetorician’ that we see in them.

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  45. CYC
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 22:25:35

    Hua Yong,

    Who is worried about who she is? Nobody, at least not me. I fear Sharizat more because someone told me she was a red spot during her uni days and she could help bankrupt our country now ……..so she is consistently a red spot………

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  46. CYC
    Dec 05, 2011 @ 22:40:43

    We are stripped naked in the international arena yet some fanatics are untiringly defending the indefensible. nothing wrong with their intelligence but highly suspect of their value system. May be they would term it as Brag-matic.

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  47. Ellese
    Dec 06, 2011 @ 06:55:30

    Thanks Hua Yong. A good write and note your point. It is a fair remark. I can accept some being partisan but think we must not fall into the unthinking blind follower syndrome. What I mean is that one can support pr or bn for that matter but when it’s not proper they seek change in their party and if disagreeable depart from it.. I can accept loyalty but it must not be unquestioned loyalty.
    We have too many extreme supporter supporting anything and everything what bn and pr does. As I always say they see similar act is wrong if done by foes and right if done by their party.
    To me this has serious ramifications. There are a lot of times we need to be bipartisan for our own good. Were still developing. We need sOcial cohesion to move forward. We must know what’s common good and support it. Otherwise I can only see political gridlocks like in the US. People will be disenchanted with politics. what’s worse here is that we have absolutely no objective media in MSM and AM. We can not evaluate stands policies and principles unlike in the US where debates further developed the issues. We will get superficial debates like bn budget deficit makes country bankrupt but similar pr budget deficit is good and vice versa for bn supporters. And because we don’t compare and analyse, the same thing we object to we allow it to happen because it’s done by a party one support.
    Our country nash equilibrium cannot be that. When were in a crisis like in Euro we must be bipartisan put nation first and be resolute to be able to call on the need to have that credit facility. We need to do this more where common good is involved. It matters not whether you’re bn or pr supporter, but we must be clear of what action is for our benefit and common good. We can be partisan but when an action is good for us it’s incumbent that we not only recognise it but further it. We don’t follow politicians but they follow us.

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  48. Taikohtai
    Dec 06, 2011 @ 09:17:24

    Doc,
    Greetings from Gold Coast QLD.
    Many a time I wanted to share my views but held back. You probably guessed the reason. I believe your writing is sincere and very mature compared to many others. I often feel disappointed when nothing appears in your blog after a few days but I understand your other commitments. Sometimes non-action is the best action too. I believe in being pro-active, rather than too re-active.
    The current struggle in Malaysia should be viewed as a long and protracted war as it involves changes in one’s mental outlook on all the issues involved. Sometimes it takes a few generations before a new ideology prevails and is accepted by the majority, rightly or wrongly.
    2011 is coming to an end and school holiday is upon us. May 2012 be a better year for all.

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  49. Dr Hsu
    Dec 06, 2011 @ 11:16:22

    Taikohtai
    Thanks for your comments from afar.. Beautiful place that you reside in. My youngeset is doing medicine in University of Queensland, one of the most beautiful campuses I have come across.

    I am sorry that of late, I have not been as regular in writings as before. As a working person, there is really little time left. I am also so fed up of one or two of those who time and again created havoc in this blog, so that i have to moderate every comment now. . So indirectly these ‘jokers’ have succeeded in disrupting my thoughts and limiting my available time to moderate their ‘rubbish’ comments. Their masters must be laugihing to their Boss.

    every time the blog was flowing well, someone will start attacking another with names and so on, and thus a war with all kind of rubbish starts. This involves one particular person each and every time.. Of late, you notice that there is also some paid ‘guns’coming to this blog.

    This year my health is not as good as before, coming down with illnesses a few time already.

    Also i have already touched on most topics like corruption, abuses, governance, etc. so it is now more on commenting on current issues and happenings.

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  50. HuaYong
    Dec 06, 2011 @ 12:11:22

    CYC,

    Worry is perhaps a wrong choice word, my apology and no, not you that I am referring to, anyway what I meant was we should emphasize more on issue and fact. Whenever I read blog comment in Guardian, Economist and NYT, the name calling is much less, but many Chinese blog use term like wumao (五毛), commie (共匪), and etc, it doesn’t add much value to the discussion, though I accept the reality that Chinese appreciate relationship (人情,关系) and moral judgment (以道德为判断基础而缺少法或逻辑的依据) rather than logic and fact. Hope we can learn more and improve.

    共勉之。

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  51. kittykat46
    Dec 06, 2011 @ 16:37:16

    Yes, this country badly needs bipartisanship to move forward on some of the critical issues confronting its future.
    But bipartisanship cannot mean accepting or remainding silent on bad policies and unethical policies / behaviour.
    For example, Cow-gate has many elements of possible corruption, abuse of power and definitely misuse of national resources for personal gain.
    One doesn’t have to be a card-carrying PR supporter to see that.

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  52. CYC
    Dec 06, 2011 @ 21:28:09

    Hua Yong,

    Do u really believe that by quoting some facts (which may not be relevant to the discussion) means one is serious to discuss and looking for a solution that benefit everyone? Mahathir does talk facts but only facts that enhance his own position/credibility while running down on his opponents. This is called cunning not witty. When something is morally wrong, does we still need to support our condemnation with logic? Our present scenario is even factually proven wrong yet being legally protected and enjoying life. How do u reconcile the fact and moral aspect in this scenario ?

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  53. Phua Kai Lit
    Dec 07, 2011 @ 08:39:40

    1. Aliran comments on the NFC scandal:

    http://aliran.com/7473.html

    2. Kick them (UMNO/BN kleptocrats currently in power and running the country into the ground) out at the next GE and put them on trial for:

    1. Abuse of power e.g. selective application of the law & abusing the institutions of the state to persecute individual political dissidents and social critics
    2. Gross mismanagement of the economy e.g. financial scandal after financial scandal
    3. Squandering away the enormous wealth generated from our oil and natural gas resources
    4. Incitement of racial and religious tension e.g. sponsorship/encouragement of fascist groups such as Perkasa
    5. Reckless endangerment of the health of the public e.g. Lynas project
    6. Neglect of worsening environmental problems e.g. no action taken to reduce production of greenhouse gases

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  54. aiz
    Dec 07, 2011 @ 09:12:23

    Hi Dr Hsu… I hope you will get well soon… Please don’t be too harsh on monsterball. Moderate any comments if you have too but do not ban any… and it would be nice that you do not delete comments after you have published it.

    John Milton, in his book Aeropagitica said “Let [Truth] and falsehood grapple; who ever knew Truth put to the worse, in a free and open encounter?” Let all the good and bad ideas or inaccurate information be available because the people can make adjustments and put it in the right path. Let ideas appear uncensored for consideration by the public which one to choose.

    We are both rational and inherently born good, thus, we eventually find the truth. The truth shall always prevail or kebenaran akan muncul.

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  55. HuaYong
    Dec 07, 2011 @ 20:32:52

    CYC,

    I try to answer your question.

    Do u really believe that by quoting some facts (which may not be relevant to the discussion) means one is serious to discuss and looking for a solution that benefit everyone?
    -If there is fact that support his contention, why not?

    Mahathir does talk facts but only facts that enhance his own position/credibility while running down on his opponents. This is called cunning not witty.
    -Perhaps you can be more specific, my impression toward Mahathir is he is a genius of twisting fact, but generally , i agree with you.

    When something is morally wrong, does we still need to support our condemnation with logic?
    -Of course, unless we have a different understanding of what we meant by logic.

    Our present scenario is even factually proven wrong yet being legally protected and enjoying life. How do u reconcile the fact and moral aspect in this scenario ?
    -You raised valid point which I don’t have an answer yet, purely by moral as gauge the regime should have tumble long time ago, the sad part is reality tell otherwise. This is common in many countries, so who would you blame, the people, the voter, or the system? The many ‘legalise’ corrupt practice was build up on the basis of our constitution, which many of us dare not to question due to historical reason, plus paranoia that non-stop haunting us into subscribing a value system that is unique and mind-boggling, however, I have no doubt people like me and you will move on with the premises that the regime must go, but what would you propose to achieve that? I am all ears.

    My point in my previous comment is that I will read and understand a viewpoint that is dissimilar to mine, not for the sake to agree and concede, but to learn why such belief and line of reasoning exist, I try to debunk and rebut if I find his contention doesn’t make sense and illogical, and it is also my prerogative to ignore and stay silence.

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  56. CYC
    Dec 08, 2011 @ 13:15:08

    Hua Yong,

    I am a lay man and do not stand on high moral ground. However, I do subscribe to basic moral values such as avoid doing bad things, earn an honest living and not steal/rob. Hence, my understanding of moral value means if something done has any ill will to enrich himself while harming other, then no matter what facts u may put up to support your contention will be irrelevant. I can forgive that person but that does not mean he commit no wrong.

    My contention on ways to change our present scenario may be a very naive one. But we never know if we don’t try. Basically, we need to revolutionise the whole system which is tough or even impossible. I don’t think by evolutionary action of changing piece by piece would be effective. In a nutshell, we need to change to government and rock the boat even if we may suffer for electing a wrong alternative govt as this will change the status quo that is bad if prolonged. As someone has said this ” the eyes that were washed/rinsed with tears will see things with a clearer vision and enlarged perspective”

    As u see, debate and discussion is only meaningful without skewing or twisting the truth just to win the debate. But we have seen enough here with many blindfold intelligentsia.

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