A miss opportunity!

As someone who has been a CC member of a political party ( supposedly the highest decision making body but in reality not necessary so), and someone who has always spoken his mind over many issues and policies (often against party stand too), i can understand how Tunku Abdul Aziz feels when he was rebuked for speaking his mind against the sit in of Bersih 3.0, even though he supports the aims and objectives of Bersih.

While I do not necessarily agree with him over his statement ( I  was at Bersih 3.0 to show my support), I thought that he should be allowed to speak his mind especially when in his initial statement he did emphasize  that was his personl opinion.

I thought the subsequent pressure on him not to seek another term of his senatorship was a wee bit too harsh, and that this act would backfire on the Rocket since it would be seen as an vindictive act.

I have always spoken against being too partisan, as i believe a political party is just a vehicle for achieving certain ideology and aims.

In the States, republican presidents have invited and appointed democratic party members into their cabinets and senior positions in government and vice versa.  So a party’s ;eadership should be big enough to tolerate certain dissenting views in a democratic setting.

Malaysians have become so partisan that not only the line is so clearly drawn, but any person speaking publicly against party stand , even when this view is uttered in a personal capacity, is considered a ‘traitor’.

If you are in the ruling party, you cannot even say another thing good about the opposition , and vice versa, even if there are occasions that the opposing side did do something good.

It would have done Rocket a lot of good ( it would have showcased them as a truely democratic party, not only in name) if they have tolerated the dissenting views of the Tunku, and that would portray the party as a matured, tolerance(which i find is laking in almost all parties ) and magnanimous organisation that is really practicing true democracy. It would have attracted lots of likeminded malay intellectuals and fence sitters.

What a miss chance!

( I also doubt that Tunku Abdul Aziz wuld reconsider despite the plea from DAP leaders now that he has crossed the Rubicon. I myself didnot reconsider my quit decision despite pleas from the president of my former pary. The plea, as I see it, is an attempt to damage control its public image, and the leaders know that the quit decision is final)


57 Comments (+add yours?)

  1. HuaYong
    May 16, 2012 @ 11:12:41

    hmm…sad indeed.



  2. spencer66
    May 16, 2012 @ 11:47:47

    but it is a culture of herd mentality here. both ruling and opposition although appears to constantly preach about democracy and freedom of expression, we have yet to see maturity in their perceptions. there is a risk factor of being demonise by either party of the other if such conflicting views are expressed. it is the fight itself of alignment of ideas to show the general public of calmness within the party without letting out any skeleton. bothsides are guilty of that. while the opposition have less of misdeed to show, they are taking on the same approach as the ruling party. until a mature society emerge and groom, we can expect more of these to come and our politicians will handle scenerio like this like a kid protecting a spoiled lollipop but can’t eat it. having the lollipop is an honour, not the ideas nor the aspirations.


  3. CYC
    May 16, 2012 @ 12:07:34

    The ship is more than the crew.

    I defend his right to speak up but I beg to differ on his credibility to the extend of praising Najib’s fake transformation. In a way, his ego as a blue blood just gone too far. His idea of conforming to the rule of law irrespective of its negative effect has take precedence over the quest for a fair and free election. In short, he failed to escape from the “conformist” mindset which obviously not going to work within a deceitful regime.

    On LGE’s leadership style, I think I have commented enough that he has small heart. He can’t accommodate talents who pose any challenge to him intellectually. He often sideline the talented one and opt for yes men.

    Anyhow, I beg to differ Tunku Aziz is the right person that can help to change Malays perception towards DAP. DAP needs someone who can rally and connect effectively with the kampong folks like Mat Sabu. Tunku as a bangsawan simply not the ideal candidates. But he may be good to DAP’s international image but who cares when you are not even the governing party yet. .


  4. BeWildered
    May 16, 2012 @ 13:23:30

    While there are plenty of criticism thrown against BN leaders, the DAP leadership is not much different in this aspect. Lim Kit Siang is a classical example for one who side line many upcoming strong man in DAP over the years. LGE has much of his father’s style in this also. The way political party operates in Malaysia these days has little room for diversity of ideas, opinions and even characters. Even USA is trending towards this direction. This is the reason why US congress is totally in paralysis in doing its job to serve the people of United States. The partisan culture is deeply entrenched on both sides. It is either our ways or no way until even US dollar rating also got downgraded because the Congress failed to deliver the confidence it can do its job to uplift US economy.
    Personal power, status, and wealth is suc a top priority that leaders at the top peddle and support agenda which benefits their own individual’ interests, not for the greater selves. It all sums up to GREED.


  5. kittykat46
    May 16, 2012 @ 13:24:17

    Subsequent events, including Tunku Abdul Aziz’s NTV7 interview, and today’s Star interview show the rift was much deeper and more widespread than just Bersih.

    The NTV7 show practically had him as a BN supporter, praising BN for being on the right track and calling for the public to support Najib’s “Transformation plan”.
    Today, in the Star, he called Lim Guan Eng “biadap” which is a very strong and emotive slur in Bahasa.

    He has a right to his opinions, but it simply wouldn’t work for him to be a DAP leader or even member.


  6. klm
    May 16, 2012 @ 14:03:18

    The souring of relationship had probably been festering for a long time. I wonder if the black hands of UMNO had been involved sowing the seed of open confrontation. I am not surprised if that was so.


  7. Taikohtai
    May 16, 2012 @ 15:15:31

    No doubt BN will try to extract as much political mileage as they can from this episode but I doubt very much DAP will suffer any fall out from Tunku’s resignation. Action speaks louder than words and surely 250,000 over BERSIH 3:0 marchers will NOT disagree. Already there are calls for a magical 1 million BERSIH 4:0 as EC dithers and UMNO struggles with a half empty stadium.


  8. anon
    May 16, 2012 @ 16:33:51

    There is a sparkle of doubt here.

    If Tunku Abdul Aziz is as mentioned to be a honest & principle man, then why the out-pouring of hates/angers during NTV7’s interview?

    The part about the ‘good works’ of BN is especially damaging, coming from a top echelon member of a opposition party.

    Has he forgot about his ‘principle’ or ‘ethic’? Or his understanding of such is/was always surface, ie wayang-kulit.

    I personally think that his parting is no major lost. He SHOULD be considered as of the same herd as those simmering under the PKR boils, waiting fro opportunity ONLY.

    He shown his true intention when he said that he must resign to protect his ‘integrity’. What integrity? Other than the immediate lost of the senatorship, that he had managed to frog-leaped over many others simply bcoz he was considered a BIG catch, worthy of keeping at all cost, DUE solely to his race?

    Judging from what he said about the DUduh Bantah of BERSIH3, this man is NOT worthy of anything. He talked c**k bcoz he COULDN’T adequately judge the mood of the people at large at the critical time.

    This is the REAL 阿斗.

    We have not reach the time for ONE Malaysia. There is yet to be any TRUE Malaysian, especially among those who lives under the misguided special positions of the Fed Constitution.


  9. World Anonymous
    May 16, 2012 @ 23:19:42

    RPK says when Tunku Aziz voiced his opinion, we didn’t respect him none. Doesn’t it occur to people that when the opinion was voiced it will generate other opinions???

    Jocelyn Tan of the other Spittoon Times thinks we are “persecuting” Tunku Aziz. To be fair to Tunku Aziz, he’s bigger than those nameless ball-less virtual people.

    It just beats the shit out of the mind that when Tunku Aziz or whoever should voice their opinions we are to zip up. With the Press freely open to The Star it has to be the only opinion under the sky or amongst the bytes.

    Maybe, the virtual nameless people should be very very careful on everything they write. Better still don’t write. Leave willing prized horses do the work and pay for their printing press so there’ll be no mess.

    Now who will think twice about whether to give an opinion or just part with your money.

    Who??? Yeah, WHO???


  10. Pengsanlo
    May 17, 2012 @ 00:25:04

    Even the old horse commented that he cannot understand why this guy joined this party in the first place. Like love, all is fair. You enter into it with hopes that it will work out. If it doesn’t, walk out if you still can with minimal damage. Don’t have a dozen children and leave them with no father or mother. No one can say who is right or wrong. There must be more to the one side of the coin.


  11. Wave33
    May 17, 2012 @ 00:26:21

    In general DAP, especially those old horses have not learn to government democratically. DAP has been the opposition for donkey years, that changed on 8th March 2008, when suddenly DAP went into a culture shock moment. Till today, those old horses have not recovered from the shock. It will take sometime (maybe long long time) hopefully very near future, when they are able to wake up from a sleep and start governing.

    What is happening now, the pigs are inviting DAP to play in the mud.This will only make the pig happy and DAP dirty. There is no need to engage UMNO in politicking, the Rakyat need DAP to government Penang properly.

    I am more in favour for the new generation politician whom have not been on the opposing side for far too long, wakil rakyat such as, Gobind Singh, Hannah Yeoh, Tony Pua and many others.


  12. HuaYong
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:05:48

    “There is no need to engage UMNO in politicking, the Rakyat need DAP to government Penang properly.”

    exactly my point, dap or that 阿斗 can blab day and night that they are right and others is wrong, would that helps? just end the chapter by saying you are the best in the world and i respect your view, but i disagree, that’s all. now only say pls come back, tq, i love u only tell the world u r a …阿斗.

    let’s just admit 阿斗 is 阿斗 la, why argue against the obvious?


  13. A true Malaysian
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:25:55

    Somehow I feel Dr. Hsu, when writing something on DAP, is not totally on ‘without prejudice’ basis. This is just how I feel and I hope this does not offend you in one way or another.

    For DAP to survive until today with constant intimidation for you-know-who, top leaders like Lim Kit Siang, Karpal Singh, Chen Man Hin, Lim Guan Eng, Teresa Kok and many more, play a very significant part to this. If without righteouness, dedication and determination, DAP will already be part of BN. This is the easiest way out for them to live a properous life. This alone testifies I have no doubt in their characters so far as this Tunku Aziz issue is concerned.

    The situation is very fluid now especially after Bersih 3.0 sit-in protest. Again, for the big brother to use such dirty tactics to counter the aftermath of Bersih 3.0 is something very foolish. They are in damage control exercise before the current Parliament is dissolved. But, instead of control the damages, the damages get bigger.

    I believe Tunku Aziz was roped in for this purpose. Personally I have much respect on Tunku until he uses the word ‘biadap’.

    A miss opportunity is on Tunku, not DAP.


  14. anon
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:34:18

    This is a MUST read about that 阿斗!


    Still think this is a man of integrity? Principle?


  15. HuaYong
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:40:51

    anon, y not u ask lks?


  16. Dr Hsu
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:45:07

    I think we have to divide his reaction into 2 parts.

    the first was the reaction towards being rebuke after his comment on Bersih 3.0 and which the above article is about.

    The second was after he was being offered RM50,000 with travel perks in Penang Institute, which he may have wrongly interpreted as a ‘bride’ to him, and thus his felt slighted’ Like a wounded animals, his response has become more vicious ( I do not actually agree with the word ‘biadap’used).. When his ego was perceived by his inner self to be hurt, he has become more irrational.. It is all about psychology and human ega..

    the article above is mainly about his first response… and when the whole situation can still be salvaged if a less partisan approach was adopted. Hence the missed opportunity..


  17. A true Malaysian
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:47:22

    A person with his stature should observe decorum in whatever circumstance, but he didn’t. This alone cast doubt on him. He is no more of his ‘stature’. Sorry if I have to say that.

    Tunku supposed to help Malaysia, not DAP alone in shifting the paradigm of the Malay masses instead of continue to be knotted with ‘sentiments’. Now what? Back to square one?

    Hold on, Malay masses (except you-know-who) are not naive. We will see that in 13th GE. This is how I read the situation now. Mark my words here.


  18. HuaYong
    May 17, 2012 @ 09:51:23

    atm, it is a miss opportunity for dap to demonstrate that they appreciate democracy, respest dissent opinion, agree to disagree, 海纳百川,有容乃大, 宰相肚里好撑船. who care about tunku? there would still many tunku that come and go.


  19. A true Malaysian
    May 17, 2012 @ 10:15:24

    The word ‘Tunku’ is synonimous with prince in Malay custom. Previously, it commands high respect but since when it was polluted, politically or otherwise, it becomes just a term.

    I particularly like this Tunku but the word ‘biadap’ has totally changed how I look at him. It seems his international exposures had deduced to rubbish at the very moment.

    He should apologise to LGE unconditionally, no buts, no ifs if he still want to be in his stature. Mind you, somehow foreign dignitaries and diplomatic community will look at him differently now, no more of high respect.

    Yes, tunkus come and go, why bother? You are right in that sense, but not this rare breed Tunku. A big disappointment to me, and I am sure, many true Malaysians.


  20. anon
    May 17, 2012 @ 11:05:06


    Yr 阿斗 is not my 阿斗!

    Tunku, the 阿斗, is my take of raising the understanding of the privileged race to the understanding of equal Malaysia under the same banner, regardless of race.

    Yr 阿斗, aka LGE, is only yr interpretation of that person. LKS is a dinosaur of the day past – principled? Yes! Integrity? No! especially about HIS take on Chinese vernacular education. Not to the same extend as TSS’s flowering iron tree, but not less.

    BTW, it’s totally not fair to equal LGE as 阿斗. After all, the situation is different. LKS had zilch experience of managing a STATE, whereas Penang under LGE is just short of par excellence! The only guide after LKS’s leadership, within DAP, was a dismay single-mindedness of hard-headedness in consolidating his power base. Tell LKS about – 海纳百川,有容乃大, 宰相肚里好撑船!

    But been an anlophile, he WON”T understand! So let him be. His time has come & passed.


  21. Albert Cheah
    May 17, 2012 @ 11:56:01

    The news said “KUALA LUMPUR, May 16 — Lim Kit Siang has called Tunku Aziz Tunku Ibrahim “a man of principle and integrity” despite the former DAP vice-chairman accusing Lim’s son of being untrustworthy and lacking decency.

    Kit Siang’s son Guan Eng, the party secretary general, had publicly rebuked the ex-Bank Negara advisor for not toeing the party line and refusing to support Bersih’s April 28 “illegal street protest.”

    My observations and comments are: –

    Tunku Aziz has resigned from DAP forever, it is a fact as he is a man of principle.

    He probably did not know that the Bersih 3 was made “unlawful” by BN government using DBKL law.

    He probably do not know how important the objective of the Bersih 3 fighting for.

    He was vice-chairman of DAP, an effective opposition political party, he thought that by expressing his “personal opinion” in public would not termed as an embarrassment to DAP. He might not be matured enough as politician and he does not understand that Bersih 3 is a NGO movements get many general public or Malaysians to appeal and demand for CLEAN ELECTION.

    After Bersih 3 fantastic event and from his colorful tv interview, that he did not see how the many Malaysians feel about corruption rampantly taking place, the worst is the election process such as no mainstream media for opposition parties, etc. He does not see the 100,000 or more aspirations of many Malaysians wanting a clean election and clean government. He had gone further saying BN government transformation was taking place because he did not see the absolute unfair treatment towards Bersih 3 movements. He did not see that authorities should facilitate Bersih 3 movements, instead created “law” on using Dataran Merdeka to block aspiration of many Malaysians. He did not see the police actions made to the Bersih 3 fellow Malaysians. He was right that police actions to Bersih 3 Malaysians would occur. He probably did not see some videos on Internet how police treated the Bersih 3 fellow Malaysians. He did not comment on some Police without name tags, etc in action in the video too. He did not comment on former IGP be a chairman of Bersih 3 Investigation committee although the nominated chairman had earlier publicly said that Bersih 3 was related to communists, etc. He thinks that PM said peaceful gathering to express freedom, clean election, etc would allow and then got DBKL and Police in actions is a honest transformation.

    He said “Then yesterday, Zairil Khir Johari (Lim’s political secretary) called and repeated the offer [by Lim Guan Eng] and stated there was a stipend of RM50,000 to go with it. He continued “Totally, totally insulting, and I could only conclude that it had come from someone who had no sense and not even a modicum of respect.” For this and Lim Guan Eng’s earlier rebuke, he resigned from DAP.

    Lim Kit Siang said he is “a man of principle and integrity” and Lim Kit Siang requested him “to move on in our separate but still common destiny to create a clean Malaysia.”

    Do you agree? I only agree with Lim Kit Siang’s second statement, but I still wait and see.

    Lim Guan Eng was right to say “Time will prove who is on the right side of history.”


  22. HuaYong
    May 17, 2012 @ 11:57:59

    anon, i know ur 阿斗 is not my 阿斗, lks is the one who claim ur 阿斗a man with principle and integrity, not me, read tmi, and dap said the same for the past for years until this episode arise,

    whether my 阿斗 manage penang well is up to penangites to judge, but i think he handle ur 阿斗 in a very bad manner, or shall i say infantile? i now have the impression that my 阿斗 are damn contended for holed up in that small island, and start to lose sight what dap struggle is about, or to be blunt, stupid.

    i agree with u pertaining to lks n vernacular school, but that is irrelevant to our discussion.


  23. WildCard
    May 17, 2012 @ 13:30:53

    Sometimes,things array not be what it appears to be on the surface. Similar events occurred as time moves toward GE.
    First the Hassan Ali incident, attempts in sabotaging PAS.
    Now the Aziz incident, similar attempts in sabotaging DAP image.
    There will be a couple more coming.
    It is likely all these are sleepers of BN in the opposition party.
    From the declarations by these individuals, it is not for their ideology but more of discharging tasks on behalf of another party or interests.
    The Pakatan front should be more careful in picking up rejects from BN!


  24. steven chen
    May 17, 2012 @ 13:56:33

    I would like to think that the Tunku is a fine man untill he use the word ‘biadap’ on a man no less than the Chief Minister of Penang. If Lim Guan Eng is biadap what would the Menteri Besar of Pahang be? On his scale.


  25. steven chen
    May 17, 2012 @ 14:06:46

    To you guys out there..I would rather you write totally in chinese or english. You make me feel very incomplete not knowing the full extend of what you write. I know I am chinese and I regret not learning to read and write chinese but I am not the only one..so I hope you can be more understanding let us take part in your ideas.


  26. anon
    May 17, 2012 @ 17:02:56


    That why I said LKS is a political dinosaur!

    As far as Penang is concerned, as a distant son of Penang & still with closed links & relatives in the island, I’m willing to stand to my claim of LGE’s contributions within such a short interval of management under ‘Federal duress’.

    Yet, I don’t think he handle the Tunku’s outrage ( out of gentlemanship too) in a very bad manner. Big catch or not, this case 需要政治家的当机立断. Otherwise once a precedence is set, all the cats & mice would run wild.

    Anyway, all these r flowing water under the bridge, we don’t need to be acted as 马后炮. Time will tell!!!!


  27. HuaYong
    May 17, 2012 @ 17:34:53

    aiyo anon, what 马后炮? dont 死鸡杖饭盖 la, treat it as sort of lesson learn. there would still many “principled” and “integrity” 阿斗 to join dap, find a better way to deal with it, 龟缩小岛或放眼大陆,更需要政治家的当机立断。

    that said, the big picture is still bn must go.


  28. Jong
    May 18, 2012 @ 01:57:23

    Things would have been different had Tunku Aziz been more sensitive towards party leaders, have some ethics to observe party rules and regulation; in short co-exist and try to be a team-player but he did not. He was so full of himself and that was where the problem started.

    It’s not about his right to an opinion, no one disputes that! It was how he said it and to whom he said it. And why did he choose to make a public statement to the mainstream media knowing his party’s stand?

    I don’t think he’s that dumb not to know what was coming – that they were like hyenas waiting to rip him apart and spin whatever he had to say to embarrass DAP of which he was its Vice Chair, and a party decision had already been made to give 100% support for Bersih 3.0 . Was that so difficult for him to accept?


  29. observant
    May 18, 2012 @ 10:32:22

    I think this resignation is a culmination of dissatisfactions or disillusions of Tunku Aziz over LGE over a period of times. As an old man with strong pride, he must be very hurt that he was not valued for his opinions and outputs in the party. He might think that his appointment as VP and senatorship is just being wallpaper image to bolster Malays presence in DAP. The withdrawal of a not renewable senatorship in a way is seen as as a punishment of wrong doing eventhough he is opened to face disciplinary action is proven wrong.

    He has a point in stating that he was against a sit-in in Dataran Merdeka when Stadium Merdeka was offered if the real intention was to just stage a peacerful Bersih 3.0.

    After being publicly rebuked and proven that he was correct that the demonstration turned violent, he blew his fuse when he felt that he was being punished for voicing out and his senatorship being not renewed so soon after the Bersih incidence.

    I do not know him at all but I emphatise with him when he joined DAP and being called names by the other side and when he was not being trusted and valued by his own party, surely doubts began to rise in his mind culminating to his departure although what he said during his interviews was too strong and not too correct given his years in DAP.


  30. Wave33
    May 18, 2012 @ 11:49:42

    Tunku Aziz was given the opportunity to speak in Dewan Undangan Negeri. I have seen the video. I forgot the link. Someone please linked it here. Apparently, he did not manage to pass on the concern he had. Perhaps a poor communicator in Tunku Aziz.

    When the old man speaks no one wants to listen, I think that pissed him off. Same as the ex-dictator for 22 years, when Abdullah was the PM, the ex-dictator was put into cold storage. He was so furious that he called Malaysia, a police state. Wow! For the pass 22 years, haven’t he noticed, he was the regime. When ex-dictator loses power, only he got the taste of his own medicine. The Police State!

    Most old horses behave that way, they DEMAND to be appreciated and listen to. Not seek to be appreciated and respected. Try writing something in RPK’s Malaysia Today that does not sync with RPK. You get whack repeatedly.

    That is the cycle of life. When you are powerful, you THINK you are great. You think you knows everything under the sun. Ex-dictator is a classic example, that he knows all.


  31. HuaYong
    May 18, 2012 @ 12:02:28

    “Try writing something in RPK’s Malaysia Today that does not sync with RPK. You get whack repeatedly.”
    -lol, my recent ratio base on censure over submission in mt is 30%.

    “Most old horses behave that way, they DEMAND to be appreciated and listen to.”
    -base on this metric, i am not that old 🙂


  32. HuaYong
    May 18, 2012 @ 12:09:30

    steven, sorry, will write in english, most are chinese idiom, would not change the core message of the sentence. my apology.


  33. A true Malaysian
    May 18, 2012 @ 21:55:43

    I told you guys. This Tunku is roped in to do ‘damage control’.

    Read this http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/198376

    He totally lost my respect. How can a person with integrity act in such manner. I can’t understand their psyche, honestly.


  34. Jong
    May 18, 2012 @ 22:16:45

    There he goes again – ‘man of principle and integrity’ begging on Malaysians to support Najib’s leadership transformation programs and to give BN another chance! What’s with him, so full of bitterness and going public with words like “biadab”(ill-bred), that no decent gentleman will use to describe another.
    Much propriety is expected of someone who has accomplished much and no reason to behave the way he did!

    I’m sure many of you heard his plea for Najib during “Chat time with Tunku Aziz” aired “live” over ntv7, I thought that was most unbecoming of him when technically he was still the Vice Chair of DAP.

    Glad he showed his true colors well before GE-13 otherwise DAP will be in deep sh*t. Good riddance Tunku, you are a total disgrace!


  35. A true Malaysian
    May 18, 2012 @ 23:41:55

    Najib has to decide if he loves himself more or Umno more at this very critical point of his political life.

    Silly me. No one in them love their party more than themselves since the old horse era, let alone our beloved country. He is holding on to his last straw.

    He is not even an elected PM, by the way.


  36. HuaYong
    May 19, 2012 @ 06:39:22

    “He totally lost my respect. How can a person with integrity act in such manner.”

    if you do respect that fella in the past, then lost of respect is normal, but i cant be sure this have to do with “integrity” when he merely express his political stand, just like i dont think i would be more morally sound merely by pronouncing my support for pr/dap.

    dap want to transform their image from chinese into a multi-racial one and i think that is fine. they can do this via bottom up or top down and it seems they prefer the latter, but do this “principled” and “integrity” fella really share dap ideology, i doubt it, hey, they are not one that join you when you have zilch, or when you dont even have a proper venue to conduct meeting, or when people treat you as no hope opposition. so accept this as part of outcome of the game.

    i think inclusiveness shall be bottom up via recruiting member from various background, and make them aware and comprehand the party struggle and ideology, and allow those that show merit the opportunity to move up the ladder, are we not talking meritocracy all this while? so dap, wake up.


  37. hariskis
    May 20, 2012 @ 11:18:44

    For non malays, it is not an issue as how to do the bottom up when the rice bowl will be affected. But for them, they are like a marked person. See what the governement agencies can do to you. SA, CID, traffic, ordindary on beat, religous department, boss and even fellow workers. DUMNO has so many plans such as galvanising retired to butt you or bugger fry a person


  38. HuaYong
    May 21, 2012 @ 08:44:50

    i think language and attitude is more an issue. i attend quite a number of pkr meet up, we speak bm and with some eng as well, i don’t feel that isolated, however i am not that sure for the few chinese base political party, mca is okay since it is race base anyway, what about gerakan (hsu any idea?) n dap?

    the malay were the one that first protest on the street, many were from government and glc, the one that worry this n that is more likely a chinese.


  39. klm
    May 21, 2012 @ 14:32:26

    The more I read about Tunku Aziz, the more I get puzzled about his motivation of joining DAP. His background is totally not aligned with his action. He is a product of the establishment and for all his life, he is coddled b the establishment. I just dont get it.


  40. Phua Kai Lit
    May 22, 2012 @ 10:35:07

    Dear blog readers,

    Memoirs of Dr Syed Husin Ali is out (English version).
    THIS person is undoubtedly principled.

    Reading it, I am struck by how much we need to learn from history e.g.
    the 1960s Parti Rakyat – Labour Party collaboration in the form of the
    Socialist Front; the important role played by left-wing Malay activists such as Ahmad Boestamam, Dr Burhanuddin Al-Helmy etc.

    And the fact that both UMNO and the PAP were helped into power by the departing British, to protect the latter’s interests.


  41. Phua Kai Lit
    May 24, 2012 @ 15:51:59

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  42. A true Malaysian
    May 25, 2012 @ 11:10:03

    Please make sure you make an effort to listen the podcasts of Oon Yeoh with our young politicians and civil activists.

    I see hopes in them. They are ‘true Malaysians’.



  43. HuaYong
    May 25, 2012 @ 17:19:53

    “Parti Rakyat – Labour Party collaboration in the form of the Socialist Front; the important role played by left-wing Malay activists”

    And that Kassim Ahmad, now a Umno member, and my mum, now a MCA member, and the Hai-O boss, now still a boss…….


  44. hariskis
    May 25, 2012 @ 17:40:57

    No surprise. What Communist China since the passing away of Mao. During Mao, people are unisex wearing similar dress. Now, what communist policies they are following. They even allow people to gamble openly and bet cock and bull fights when I visited years ago. In the past, we send money to them and now we have to beg them to send money to us


  45. HuaYong
    May 28, 2012 @ 10:16:04

    the changes we see in china is mainly to adopt capitalism for economy progress, the ideology still depart between the left and right, bo xilai incident is one good reference case. i am not that sure in usa, is that common for their people to hop from democrat to become a republican and vice versa?

    i notice my mum not that comfortable whenever the topic of labour party is brought up, my impression is that most of her old friend find it odd for one that subscribing to the leftist thought could now accept mca, but i think the reason is that during the 80′ or 90′, it is more likely to pass time and to have some activities that make their life more interesting rather than ideological. i know isa do have the magic to transform a person, maybe not into the deepest of one mind, but regardless, some change at least from the appearance. but i still have great respect to people like kassim ahmad no matter how.


  46. HuaYong
    May 28, 2012 @ 10:41:28

    btw, one of my very left incline uncle (舅舅)from chung ling often make fun of his likewise left incline classmate that venture into busimess as red capitalist (红色资本家), LOL.


  47. Phua Kai Lit
    May 28, 2012 @ 14:56:59

    Many people tend to become less “radical” politically as they get older.

    But ethical people will always remain ethical, no matter what their current political orientation.
    (except for political extremists from the far left and from the far right. It is not uncommon for extreme leftists to jump from youthful Marxism-Leninism to middle age fascism, the prime example being Benito Mussolini)


  48. Phua Kai Lit
    May 28, 2012 @ 15:07:10

    Book by the late historian and English intellectual Tony Judt:

    “The Burden of Responsibility: Blum, Camus, Aron, and the French Twentieth Century”

    Using the lives of the three outstanding French intellectuals of the twentieth century, renowned historian Tony Judt offers a unique look at how intellectuals can ignore political pressures and demonstrate a heroic commitment to personal integrity and moral responsibility unfettered by the difficult political exigencies of their time.

    Through the prism of the lives of Leon Blum, Albert Camus, and Raymond Aron, Judt examines pivotal issues in the history of contemporary French society—antisemitism and the dilemma of Jewish identity, political and moral idealism in public life, the Marxist moment in French thought, the traumas of decolonization, the disaffection of the intelligentsia, and the insidious quarrels rending Right and Left. Judt focuses particularly on Blum’s leadership of the Popular Front and his stern defiance of the Vichy governments, on Camus’s part in the Resistance and Algerian War, and on Aron’s cultural commentary and opposition to the facile acceptance by many French intellectuals of communism’s utopian promise. Severely maligned by powerful critics and rivals, each of these exemplary figures stood fast in their principles and eventually won some measure of personal and public redemption.

    Judt constructs a compelling portrait of modern French intellectual life and politics. He challenges the conventional account of the role of intellectuals precisely because they mattered in France, because they could shape public opinion and influence policy. In Blum, Camus, and Aron, Judt finds three very different men who did not simply play the role, but evinced a courage and a responsibility in public life that far outshone their contemporaries


  49. Phua Kai Lit
    May 28, 2012 @ 15:35:25

    Dear Dr Hsu

    Interesting comments by Dato Sak from his blog :

    “When Lim Guan Eng took over Penang from UMNO and Gerakan he inherited a debt of almost RM 700 million and after only 4 years the debt is reduced to RM 30 million. He has balanced the budget and Penang has emerged as the sate with the biggest FDI. He offers a better future for Penang people.

    When Khalid Ibrahim the stutterer took over Selangor he was left with a reserve of RM 800 million. Khir Toyo the tempe seller thought he could gloat but after 4 years, Khalid Ibrahim has increased the cash reserves to just over RM 2 billion, balanced the budget and received the second largest FDI. Khalid offers a better future for Selangor people and has a better record to compare to boastful Najib.

    When Nik Aziz, the kampong man vilified by UMNO as a village ustaz in sarong who can never manage a state took over Kelantan, he inherited a debt of over RM 600 million. Now Kelantan has no federal debt. Nik Aziz offers Kelantanese a better future.”


  50. HuaYong
    May 28, 2012 @ 22:38:48

    Churchill said “If you’re not liberal when you’re young, you have no heart. If you’re not conservative when you’re older, you have no brain.” 🙂

    I dont quite agree that ethical people will always remain ethical, the real test is when one have a taste of power. I personally have very little trust toward politician, I believe a balance system and the people attitute is the key.


  51. anon
    May 29, 2012 @ 10:06:31

    Dr Hsu,

    The recent outpouring of grudges about DAP & M’sia politics in general by T Aziz, must have u & some commentators falling off the chairs.

    Gentleman? Man of principle?

    It’s always that herd mentality – like the saying u can bring the man out of the kampung but u can never bring the kampung out of the man!


  52. HuaYong
    May 29, 2012 @ 13:37:31

    hehe anon, could it be in the eyes of anglophile lks, anyone that speak english with the queen accent is a gentleman?


  53. Dr Hsu
    May 30, 2012 @ 10:36:54

    hi guys
    i am currently out of the country for a few days. may not be able to write for a few days.


  54. Rajput Sandy
    Jun 01, 2012 @ 01:46:30

    hi guys I am also a blogger and i want to earn comment and traffic for my blog plg suggest.


  55. Phua Kai Lit
    Jun 01, 2012 @ 15:16:37

    Comments on Vaclav Havel’s speech to the US Congress:



  56. CYC
    Jun 01, 2012 @ 21:36:19

    Political language is designed to make lies sound TRUTHFUL and murders RESPECTABLE —— George Orwell.

    Can you see the above image appears right in front of your teary eyes?
    Sounds and looks familiar, right.?


  57. HuaYong
    Jun 02, 2012 @ 08:18:55

    “That’s because you only see what you want to see”

    Ummm, maybe, let me explore further what I see. Rousseau stated that only the people, in the form of the Sovereign, have that all powerful right. Locke believes that government is legitiment only with the consent of the governed. American have the tradition to go against conventional authority and thus declare that “we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.”

    All social contract existed on the foundation of people’s right and power, but it seem that our social contract is slightly difference and work the other way round, it were being refered and to remind the people again and again we agree to certain term, and our citizenship is part of that contract. Actually I am fine with it if that is the majorities wish, and a contract they want and insist to uphold under our democracy framework; we can even call this the Malaysia exceptionalism. However, I still don’t see this is a done deal, perhaps you can enlighten me further?

    PS/ Since Hsu blog is now on auto pilot, i attach above comment that was not publish (yet?) in M2Day : When the mouth moves faster than the brain (Part 2).


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